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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    @KT53  probably, but as they are both in the wilds, one in Scotland, near St Andrews, and one in Snowdonia in wet Wales, neither  have gas mains nearby.
     Is any form of heating eco friendly? Electrickery seems to be mainly from coal powered  power stations  round here, since they shut the pits, it comes from far far away by ship. Gas is fossil fuel also., a lot of it from Norway.  Same with oil fired central heating boilers.  Unless we all want to spend most of the winter under wool filled duvets and get our heat from the compost heaps, it all gets a bit  silly. I thought the fact that we live in a cold  wet country  and hope to have all mod conveniences means  that we have to use fossil fuels. Living off the grid for anyone who isn't rich enough to buy a large piece of land to install large heat pumps, hydroelectric, and pay for solar panels and windmills is just a pipedream.  I'm just about to run a hot bath, heated by my gas boiler,  and have a long luxurious soak.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Indeed @fidgetbones - most forms of heating aren't eco friendly. You're right about your rellies - they'll need them. I see countless houses round here that have them, but they don't need them for heating etc. They're a 'fashion item'. 
    We have a situation up here where they're stopping [at best - delaying]  the proposed Cambo oil field north west of Shetland. Considering how long it'll take to have a green alternative that will provide enough leccy, that means we'll be importing oil, no doubt at hideous prices, for years and years. Makes no sense to me. 
    You're right too - unless you have the facility and the means to put in other 'green' heat sources, it's totally unrealistic. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Makes no sense here either. I'm all for moving to clean energy - great - but it has to be managed. You can't just switch off one energy source and move to another without a transition - and that transition has to be managed. Again it will be the poor who suffer - as they won't be able to move to the new technology as any new technology tends to be expensive and gets cheaper. So they'll be stuck on old tech, with the prices rising as the supply then dries up.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    I like the idea of green hydrogen.  Splitting sea water in to  hydrogen to burn and oxygen for the hospitals using solar or wind power on isolated islands is a good idea.  I like  the idea of running a car with a large gas tank of hydrogen a lot less.  Saudi Arabia. lots of desert, sun, water in the arabian gulf,  low population, ideal situation. Nottingham, rain water, high population, not so good idea.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Talking of waste :
    £38,000,000,000 of tax payers money given by Bojo the Clown to his mates for Track and Trace and it didn't even work. Any sign of getting our money back?
    Devon.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    No. That £38 billion was obviously taken from the £39 billion that we didn't owe the EU for pensions etc. I think if you take all the money we were to get back from the EU, the cost of Covid actually comes down to zero (you may want to check my facts and maths there - hey, but no one checked Boris's/Goves's/ Cummings's claims eh? So why check mine?). There's the benefit of Brexit straight away - we haven't had to spend any of our own money to fend it off - it's all been paid for by the EU. Huzzah for Boris and the boys...hip hip....that'll teach Johnny foreigner (can I say that, or is it racist?).

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited December 2021
    steveTu said:
    No. That £38 billion was obviously taken from the £39 billion that we didn't owe the EU for pensions etc. I think if you take all the money we were to get back from the EU, the cost of Covid actually comes down to zero (you may want to check my facts and maths there - hey, but no one checked Boris's/Goves's/ Cummings's claims eh? So why check mine?). There's the benefit of Brexit straight away - we haven't had to spend any of our own money to fend it off - it's all been paid for by the EU. Huzzah for Boris and the boys...hip hip....that'll teach Johnny foreigner (can I say that, or is it racist?).

    Any sign of the 40 new hospitals he promised? 
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59372348
    Devon.
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    City Hospital in Nottingham appears to be being rebuilt, unit by unit. As some of it is Victorian, it needs it.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    City Hospital in Nottingham appears to be being rebuilt, unit by unit. As some of it is Victorian, it needs it.
    surely that's an "upgraded hospital" not a NEW one?
    Devon.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited December 2021
    New definitely implies additional to me. I can't get my head around post - truth doublethink. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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