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ROSES Autumn/Winter Season 2021/22

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  • Inspired by @Mr. Vine Eye comments I have taken another closer look at GdeF.

    I have removed all lower smaller branches leaving 1 main central and 2 smaller canes trained right & left.
    The 2 thin canes at far right I have trimmed to buds facing in the right direction to hopefully train them either way around the cordyline trunk.
    These lower branches are all pretty spindly, hopefully they will thicken up in time?
     
    Just another day at the plant...
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edited January 2022
    @owd potter - I think what's likely to happen - if my other roses are anything to go by, is that those short spindly bits will stay relatively short and spindly but you'll get newer stronger canes from the base or from higher up on another thicker cane. So eventually you'll cut them off.

    That's what I did to Kew Gardens just now. But there's no rush to remove them as more leaf = more photosynthesis.


    And I don't think you need to worry about the spottyness on Lichfield angel. I think some roses just do that! My Eustacia Vye looks the same.
    East Yorkshire
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    Looking frosty there @owd potter!
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edited January 2022
    Ohh, and I thought this was interesting.

    I was moving soil away from around Desdemona so I could cut off a dead cane as low down as possible. While doing so I found a big own root coming from the base of another cane. Judging by the number of feeder roots just in this area, she’s probably got others too. 

    Obviously I knew that they did this, I’ve found roots at the base of canes before but not seen ones this developed and chunky! It surprised me. Audible ‘Ooo’


    East Yorkshire
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ^looks rootstock to me.. 

    Incredibly mild.. I've got a 13 degrees tomorrow.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    @Marlorena - I thought that at first, but no, the root is coming from right below a Desdemona cane but well above the level of the graft. The graft is an inch or two further below the soil and left of centre. Where the other canes are growing from.


    East Yorkshire
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    enjoying all pruning pictures. You have defoliated everything so nicely too. 

    I am not getting any time to go to garden. When I went to put kitchen vegetable peeling etc in compost bin, the mouse was still there  :/

    And my The Prince in pot is looking awful. All canes dried and black  :(
    South West London
  • That picture is from a couple of weeks ago @Omori
    Not frosty today but does still feels pretty chilly tho' 
    Just another day at the plant...
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Mr. Vine Eye

    Ok.. if it's above the graft then I'd say it's not a root as such, you haven't had the rose long enough for it to develop a trunk of root that thick.. it's almost as mature as the canes above it..

    ... I think a dormant bud eye got submerged at planting time, has grown out sideways like a sucker under the soil, curving and surfacing a few inches away.. I presume the upright shoot bottom left is connected to it?.. I can't tell, it's a bit blurry..

    Own roots are thin and wiry, like bootlaces... it has produced its own 'own root' the wiry shoot on the right .. effectively, the shoot could be severed and grown on.. 
    East Anglia, England
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