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ROSES Autumn/Winter Season 2021/22

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Didn’t realise I had been AWOL for so long, thanks for the welcome back folks!

    @cooldoc I would say the repeat on Soul is about average, similar to most full-petalled Austins - better than Gertrude Jekyll but not as frequent as Munstead Wood, if that helps. The first flush is the most generous and the fragrance is to die for. Healthy and vigorous, the only downside being the blooms spoil a bit in the rain.

    @Tack I don’t know for sure but as a large-flowered climber rather than a weeping/rambling rose, I suspect you won’t need an umbrella stand for PdeR. Hope both Soul and Heidi K do well for you.

    Still no news from TCL but I see they are now sold out of GdeF standards so I don’t think I will be getting one 😞. I’m seriously tempted to cancel my extremely overdue order (placed in August!) altogether and order the three out of ten I really want to fill gaps from elsewhere. The rest were just nice to have pot pets..
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edited January 2022

    I'm of two minds about something, so am hoping you can help me.

    Malvern Hills has lots of long canes that grew in late summer and autumn. They're right at the top and to stop them snapping I brought them down into a weeping shape and tied them to fixings or other stems lower down.

    I'm wondering whether to leave them like this so they can flower and give me some extra in the first flush. Then cut them back. Or whether I should cut them back when I do the usual prune - right back to where I'd cut all the other laterals.

    I'm umming and ahhing about it
    EDIT - they've not all been tied down yet, only a couple have already




    East Yorkshire
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    I’d tie them in horizontally if possible, otherwise prune them back. 
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    @Omori they wouldn’t go horizontal that’s why I had to bring them down instead. Hmmmmmmmmm

    I might prune them. They'd eventually end up shading the growth lower down.

    I just don't like waste! And also liked the idea of having them pegged down like a weeping willow. 

    It's so vigorous it'll end up doing that again anyway. So maybe I will cut them back.
    East Yorkshire
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited January 2022
    Several options I would propose for that.. I would probably go with option 4 just for a change..

    1.  prune back those long waving shoots hard... ultimately as this rose gets quite rampant, reducing to a more compact form will probably be needed in that corner location.. and is a quick, simple option.

    2.  tie them back to the wall, which will mean going across the top of the window on the right, and towards the window on the left, plus supports on the wall.. can make cleaning windows awkward with all the growth hanging down over the upvc.. 
    I note you've already ruled this out.

    3.  just tie them in downwards, so they cascade.. another quick and simple option.. but it can make it look a little awkward.. prune hard back later..

    4.  the modern, trendy way is to loop those canes in a circle by bringing them downwards and twirling them around in a hoop shape, being careful not to snap anything off and tying back cane to cane..  it can look strange at first as the rose is bare, creating a series of hoops, but it's very effective for blooming purposes.. and keeps all what you've got there..

    As you are finding out, this rose does get quite rampant in time, and some containment is going to be needed on a regular basis in that position..
    East Anglia, England
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Stunning @Marlorena


    Does early leaf growth like this above risk getting badly frosted/killed off in Feb/March?

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