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ROSES Autumn/Winter Season 2021/22

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  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Tack Yes. The phormium is getting out of hand, the roots are everywhere, but ORA is ok with it, it can tolerate a lot (poor soil, some shade, competition etc.).
  • Has any ever grown or is growing David Austin Skylark?

    OH has bought it for me as an anniversary present and can't decide where I should put it.  The place Im thinking is very open at the top of a retaining wall and as the garden is south facing it is also the hottest part.

    I want it to be happy though.

    He bought it because I like anything that brings in the bees.  Looks like a nice flower shape, open cup type.  It was introduced in 2007 so quite old now but must still sell well.

  • Thankyou @Marlorena maybe Skylark may be better in the current rose bed.

    I'll have to have a think x
  • Thank you @Marlorena much appreciated. It feels as if this will be the start of a long conversation I'll be having with the Westerlands over the years, not unlike the one I have with our Bramley tree (that's a twice two-day affair, one in summer, one in winter).
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Fire said:
    Celestial Night just won some US rose trials. Apparently it smells amazing - parented by Ebb Tide. Rosa Top Gun (US) also comes highly recommended.
    @Marlorena What is the process whereby UK sellers decide if US bred roses will make it over here?

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Fire
    ..well they need a UK agent to sell their roses so they get some royalties from sales.. one of the best for US bred roses is C and K Jones who has relations with Weeks roses and seem to get some of their new introductions, like 'Queen of Elegance' which is sold by them as 'Vintage Classic'...  Style Roses offer roses from various little known breeders from abroad like John Ford of New Zealand... Beales sell Lens roses... so they do need to establish a commercial agreement to propagate and sell..

    It's difficult for those American breeders less well known... some used to have an agreement with Bierkreek in The Netherlands, who sold some American roses you couldn't find anywhere else in Europe.. these found their way into the catalogues of other European nurseries..

    David Austin has agents all over the world... there's a German nursery called Rosen-Union that has arrangements with quite a few UK breeders like DA, Harkness and lesser known Colin Pearce ['A Whiter Shade of Pale' / 'Leaping Salmon' etc].. 
    Rosen-Union are also selling some Pheno Geno roses now like 'Eveline Wild' and 'Theo Clevers'..  it's Rosen-Union that puts British bred roses they have through the German ADR system..

    However, with Covid, Brexit and  general downturn in rose buying, things have changed inevitably.. 


    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..if anyone wants a colourful look at the Rosen Union catalogue, here is a link.. not sure if it will work or  not... translate options available but lots of pretty pictures..
    ....pdf format..

    https://www.rosen-union.de/winarbor.dll/ru-katalog-digital2021-javascript_MTIxOTg3NTI.PDF?
    East Anglia, England
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    Thanks @Marlorena. I enjoyed going through it. 
    South West London
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