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ROSES Autumn/Winter Season 2021/22

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  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @cooldoc, hope you enjoy a relaxing weekend at home after a busy week at work. 

    Super Trouper is my favourite orange rose.  It repeats well,  tolerates shade and lovely foliage in contrast to perfect orange rose. I hope you will like it too.
    South West London
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Mr. Vine Eye, your plot is looking good. All your hard work is paying off.
    South West London
  • zugeniezugenie Posts: 831
    edited March 2022
    @Mr. Vine Eye I know what you mean, a day of garden pottering and my body is humbly reminding me I’m no longer in my 20s!! Plot is looking great!
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    I too have shrubby salvias with roses. Can't say anything about blackspots control but a pink one was so aggressive, it was taking over roses on either side. I am going to move it soon. They do flower all summer and slugs and snails are not interested in shrubby salvias. 
    South West London
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Marlorena

    ''use horsetail manure (mix 1 liter of horsetail manure + 1 half jar of black soap yogurt in 9 liters of water). Spray on the foliage. Repeat every 15 days''

    Horsetail is a fungicide popular over here, I suspect the ‘manure’ is horsetail steeped in water to make a tea, black soap is potassium soap, another fungicide, bought in bars and so presumably mixed to a yoghurty sludge to add to the horsetail tea. The soap also acting as a surfactant. Potassium soap spray on it’s own did nothing for me, but I repeated it only sporadically - it’s just FAR too much faff and time spraying all the leaves including the undersides every other week plus reapplying every time it rains. I have decided that life is too too short to spray roses, organic or otherwise.

    The only thing I do is perform basic hygiene tasks and mulch with manure. However I did give the soil a pre-season yellow sulphur soil drench but I’m not expecting miracles.

    @zugenie that’s about the size of my new Alister Stella Gray, also planted against my new black fence. Paler roses do contrast really well with black, your MD will look great.

    Great free gift @cooldoc, I bought a super trouper last year, compact, upright habit, good foliage and disease free in it’s first year. I think it gets too much sun where it is though, the blooms turned a really unattractive coral shade in summer. Others have said it’s shade tolerant and had a better orange colour.

    I watched a series on Old Garden Roses this afternoon, one video per type, by Jason of Fraser Valley Roses. Ok an American with some amusing pronunciations but he’s very personable and was really interesting about their history and development. I recommend for rainy days 😆 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited March 2022
    Nollie said:

    I watched a series on Old Garden Roses this afternoon, one video per type, by Jason of Fraser Valley Roses. Ok an American with some amusing pronunciations but he’s very personable and was really interesting about their history and development. I recommend for rainy days 😆 
    Yes, he's great.




  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Oh and Sarah Raven said she planted Nachtvlinder with roses, that’s a hugely aggressively spreading and self-layering shrubby salvia with world domination tendencies - suffocates anything in sight - don’t do it!

    The salvia thing is not new, the US seems to be into it and I don’t think it was confined to the shrubbies @Mr. Vine Eye. I haven’t come across any definitive allelopathic research on the subject though, something I originally developed an interest in for veg growing. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Nollie said:
    Oh and Sarah Raven said she planted Nachtvlinder with roses, that’s a hugely aggressively spreading and self-layering shrubby salvia with world domination tendencies - suffocates anything in sight - don’t do it!

    oo, interesting. I have some newly planted in araised bed, so hopefully that will contain it.
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