@steveTu ... you've not understood me ... I'm not judging others ... I'm saying that we should judge ourselves and our own behaviour as we respond to theirs.
Yes, @Allotment Boy ... I'm all for exploration and discovery ... but if that's what was important to the 'day trippers' surely they'd use their wealth to pay for scientists and engineers to make the trip rather than a charabanc ride for themselves. I'm not saying it's wrong to take a charabanc ride ... we all do it ... what I'm saying is that when someone spends that much on self-indulgence it should inform our view of the world and the actions we take.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
'.... Our thought is that the word ‘selfish’ is more apt than gullible in this instance @Hostafan1
… after all, if you had $28,000,000 to spend on a vanity project why
would you not want your name to go down in history as having paid for
Covid vaccinations of millions of folk in the Third World rather than on
what is no more than a polluting charabanc ride for billionaires? 🙄 Gullible implies they don’t understand the impact of their actions … I think that they do … and they don’t care. 😡 ...'
I thought you were judging the person as selfish hence my comments on me and £10 spent on beer etc.
No ... I am saying that the person is selfish, but that of itself is not a crime ... they are entitled to be selfish (within the law) if that's what they choose to be. However for rich people not to recognise that wealth equals power, and not to want to use that power to improve the life chances of others, reveals their character. The power that we, the less rich have, is in our vote and our pocket ... if we care about the lives of others we should recognise the character of the most wealthy and do our best to ensure that we do not blindly increase that power.
The comparison between £10,000,000 and £10 is spurious IMHO ... for a wealthy and intelligent person not to understand that whilst the figures may be comparative in relative terms the influence they can can have on other people's lives is not, is disingenuous.
I also assume that the person with £10 spending money does not spend a fortune on avoiding paying his/her taxes and thus contributing to the common good.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Morning all, beautiful blue sky with not a cloud in sight, going to be a scorcher. I've already been out early and watered the pots and downloaded photos of roses to the Roses thread. I think we'll be staying inside in the cool today, busy sorting out and moving stuff. I'm trying to convince OH that he's unlikely to ski ever again given that he's got a dodgy knee and that his 30 year old ski stuff should be binned. I expect not to win! Hope your working day goes OK @Hostafan1 and that it's not too hot driving around the Devon lanes.
Thank you @Pat E OH says you must've sent some good vibes his way ... he was just about to leave for work and his manager phoned and said he could have the day off ... footfall in the shop is low and she can manage without him ... and he gave up his day off the other day to take over when she was ill ... he shouted 'Yippee!' and is getting the lawnmower out 😍
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Morning all. Please avert your eyes as I am sitting here in the nude! Watered the garden this morning (later than it should have been, as sun quite up and hot) in my nightie. Visitors still here at 10.30pm last night and no chance to get out there with the hose so decided to do it this morning as the visitors will be fetching up here again soon. But leaky connections meant I got drenched and nightie is now outside drying. Right - better get dressed as, even though they are family, do not want snarky comments on the state of my physique from them. But before I go - I saw your post of your daughter's roses @Busy-Lizzie on the other thread - gorgeous. And, for what it's worth - I think owning a rocket and taking trips to near space for a joy ride is obscene when we have so much poverty in the world. Fiddling whilst Rome burns, let them eat cake etc. We should be looking at the globe in terms of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. As I saw recently - so called poor countries are actually rich (in terms of resources - gold, gemstones, oil, timber, minerals etc etc) - it's the people who are poor because the countries they live in are exploited by the rich and powerful.
But wealth is relative. You and I spend more on trivial stuff a year than some other have to live on. So where is that line? If he'd spent £20,000 would that have been acceptable? A hundred years ago a holiday for some in the UK was hop picking. Now even the 'poorest' must have their holidays abroad. Is that expense acceptable? If I buy a house for £750,000 is that acceptable? If I spend £5,000 on a car, I find that excessive (or used to) - but some people think nothing of spending 10, 20...100... times that. What does it say about the person's character who spends £200 on a meal for two? Or a holiday that costs £10,000?
We all judge - that's what humans do - we have our own moral compass that involves the 'lines' I bang on about - the lines we say we wouldn't cross - until, that is, we're put in a position to put those lines to a test. Each line is black and white isn't it, whilst inside our head - but the greyness occurs when they get applied in reality. '...the working class can kiss my a***, I've got the foreman's job at last...' syndrome.
It's odd here isn't it? How many people go on about the NT houses they've been to and how much they enjoy them and how wonderful they are without realising that most of those places only exist out of excess.
You judge me by what I say here. You read my words and think I'm being kind or stupid or nasty or a pain in the bum or... I judge others the same. Stupidly (judgement), those remote judgements are more based on OUR mental state than the words actually written and the intent behind them. We project our thoughts and values onto someone else's words. We spend all of our lives judging others - that is what being human is - we are machines that compare, assess and judge.
IMO the disparity in wealth is the issue - that person had $20million dollars in excess that he could spend on what he wanted. If he'd spent that on 10 holiday homes that he only used once a year, would that be any better?
Too much for a hot, sunny day....26.9 inside here at the moment. Vastly tooooooo warm for me as I turn into a blob of lard.
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Yes, @Allotment Boy ... I'm all for exploration and discovery ... but if that's what was important to the 'day trippers' surely they'd use their wealth to pay for scientists and engineers to make the trip rather than a charabanc ride for themselves. I'm not saying it's wrong to take a charabanc ride ... we all do it ... what I'm saying is that when someone spends that much on self-indulgence it should inform our view of the world and the actions we take.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Gullible implies they don’t understand the impact of their actions … I think that they do … and they don’t care. 😡 ...'
I thought you were judging the person as selfish hence my comments on me and £10 spent on beer etc.
The comparison between £10,000,000 and £10 is spurious IMHO ... for a wealthy and intelligent person not to understand that whilst the figures may be comparative in relative terms the influence they can can have on other people's lives is not, is disingenuous.
I also assume that the person with £10 spending money does not spend a fortune on avoiding paying his/her taxes and thus contributing to the common good.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I think we'll be staying inside in the cool today, busy sorting out and moving stuff. I'm trying to convince OH that he's unlikely to ski ever again given that he's got a dodgy knee and that his 30 year old ski stuff should be binned. I expect not to win!
Hope your working day goes OK @Hostafan1 and that it's not too hot driving around the Devon lanes.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Right - better get dressed as, even though they are family, do not want snarky comments on the state of my physique from them.
But before I go - I saw your post of your daughter's roses @Busy-Lizzie on the other thread - gorgeous.
And, for what it's worth - I think owning a rocket and taking trips to near space for a joy ride is obscene when we have so much poverty in the world. Fiddling whilst Rome burns, let them eat cake etc. We should be looking at the globe in terms of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. As I saw recently - so called poor countries are actually rich (in terms of resources - gold, gemstones, oil, timber, minerals etc etc) - it's the people who are poor because the countries they live in are exploited by the rich and powerful.
Chicklet has now been jabbed -yay 🥳
More swotting for me today, but might do it in the sunshine ☀️