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ROSES - Spring/Summer Season 2021

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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    Marlorena said:
    ...yes.. 'Peace'.. to us.. but in your garden in France I would imagine it would have been labelled 'Mme. A. Meilland'... wouldn't it?.. 
    Yes it would have been, a long time ago. Previous French owner said it was there when he bought the house over 30 years ago. He didn't know what it was. My father, years ago, gave me a lovely little book about the Meilland family and the breeding of Peace.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Was that story of the rose cutting being sent or smuggled into the US during or just after WW11, @Busy-Lizzie?
    I remember it as a very popular rose when I was a lot younger, trying to remember if I ever had one in a previous house.
    I read somewhere that modern Peace roses are not as good these days.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • IlikeplantsIlikeplants Posts: 894
    Marlorena said:
    @Ilikeplants
    ...hello, nice to see you here too.. and looking forward to your roses this year... do tell us what you have, we like names..
    ..without seeing a picture, from your description I would suggest you prune back those canes that have suffered, yes.. no problem with that.. I expect anyone else here would agree with this manoeuvre..
    Thanks @Marlorena, wow you have 75 types of roses. Growing up I remember a neighbour that had a front garden border that was full of beautiful roses, I thought they must be very posh! We didn’t have much of a garden in comparison.

    This is my attempt to prune the pink rose middle pic . First picture is a cutting of the main plant in case I killed it but it looks like frost got it. Third one is another cutting that looks healthier but it’s very close to the fence. Keep it there or move it?

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Ilikeplants
    ..they're ok, but there's one thing you should rectify and that's to clear away all the weedy stuff from the base of your roses.. it's not good practice to cover the lower parts of your roses like that... in the middle pic it's almost swamped... so my advice to you is try and remove as much of that as you can..  when the ground is clear you should feed and mulch if you have any..

    ..otherwise, keep going with what you have.. no need to move it..
    East Anglia, England
  • IlikeplantsIlikeplants Posts: 894
    @Marlorena - hardy geranium was there. Not a good idea to keep it to shade the soil to keep it moist? I’ll try to sort out mulching soon. Thanks for the advice. I’ll take a pic of the red and the magenta roses soon. 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    No, not a good idea really, you should use mulch for that purpose..  looking forward to pictures..

    @edhelka
    ..Amazing Day looks a nice rose, plenty of vigour..  can't wait to see it..
    East Anglia, England
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    Thanks for that @Marlorena... alas it's only a 3ft high plant support structure it's growing on and not an obelisk, but I reckon I could twist 3 or 4 outer canes round it. I'll see later today when I've a bit more time (weather permitting).
    Whilst I'm here, 'Mortimer Sackler' seems to be unavailable, so I was wondering if there are any more roses which have similar qualities, size and colour to MS and can take shade.
  • Marlorena said:
    ...yes.. 'Peace'.. to us.. but in your garden in France I would imagine it would have been labelled 'Mme. A. Meilland'... wouldn't it?.. 
    Yes it would have been, a long time ago. Previous French owner said it was there when he bought the house over 30 years ago. He didn't know what it was. My father, years ago, gave me a lovely little book about the Meilland family and the breeding of Peace.
    Hi @Busy-Lizzie, (and @Lizzie27) - was that book 'For Love of a Rose' by Antonia Ridge, by any chance? A biography of the Meilland and Paolino rose-growing families as well as the story of the Peace rose. I read it years ago and still have the copy because I thought it was charming (though rather sentimental!), and fascinating to read about the trials faced by early rose-breeders.

    Your Peace looks wonderful!
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Hello @Ilikeplants and welcome. I agree with Marlorena and try to keep a 30cm radius around the base of roses clear of anything as it’s too much competition. Even planting in front and to the sides at that distance, the foliage of the companion plants can still swamp the foliage of the rose, unless the plants are upright growers. This can cut out light and air flow around the rose, encouraging fungal diseases. I have pretty high black spot pressure here though, so I am always very conscious of that.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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