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ROSES - Spring/Summer Season 2021

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I’ll try and remember to watch you video early tomorrow morning Fire, when my internet can cope with such things (before my adopted countrymen get up and hog all the bandwidth!).

    @Athelas I can’t think of a specific red one offhand, I guess you need a climber with stiff, upright stems that is more or less self-supporting. Suitable for a pillar or obelisk, but not one that you need to wrap or bend the canes to horizontal to get it to flower. Warm Welcome was like that for me, stiff, straight up, flowered from top to bottom, but orange.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    Scurries happily back to this thread.
    Lovely garden you have created @Fire, thank you for sharing. I particularly like your white area amongst the red specimen plants.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Fire, thanks for sharing your garden video. Such a beautiful and lovely place you have created. There are so many different plants and interesting things to look at. 
    South West London
  • Really liked the video ( esp helpful plant ids) @Fire,  - I really liked the dahlias.
    Kindness is always the right choice.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Athelas I wouldn't go for a climber there if you only want it to fit into that gap and not grow over the window or on the shed. But there aren't many shrub roses that would be tall enough. Then, the combination of red and BS-resistant is hard on its own.
    'Thomas a Becket' (more pink than red) or 'Tess of d'Ubervilles' would give you the contrast and height but not BS-resistance.
    'Warm Welcome' as Nolllie said, fits the height and health but is orange. 'Westerland' (also orange) would work too, I think.
    You could maybe try something like 'Rambling Rosie' if you don't mind the rambler look.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited August 2021
    "The combination of red and BS-resistant is hard on its own."

    Yes, @Athelas I'm not sure what to suggest. I don't know of something very floriferous, healthy and red. They weren't my priorities when planting - though they would be now. I've been eyeing Flanders. It is shade tolerant, very healthy, but quite compact. As mentioned, maybe Rambling Rosie could work. It's a small climber. I'm eyeing that too. :D

    Something red, healthy, self supporting and tall is abutilon Nabob (featured in my vid). I'm not sure where you are based, but if you have mild winters it would be fine and it would enjoy that sheltered spot. It sailed through the last frosty London winter and the snow. It didn't even blink. It can be a shrub or more of a tree - depending on what you want. You can prune out the leader to create a shrub. Evergreen, it flowers more or less constantly from May to the frosts. The flowers die off very well, just drying and then falling off. Paddock says hardy to -5 but I suspect it could handle more in a sheltered spot.


    There are other well known varieties, such as Canary Bird (yellow).

  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    I have a corner similar to yours and I grow ………..Dublin Bay …..I think that’s what it’s called .
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Duh, hits head @Athelas - the rose I’m considering to replace my sadly deceased WW is Crimson Siluetta, a short red climber from Kordes, who have a good reputation for disease resistance. I think you could grow that up a narrow trellis. Not much fragrance but in the corner there that’s probably not so important. Or Rambling Rosie as edhelka suggests.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited August 2021
    Dublin Bay might be a good call, yes. I think more crimson ended.

    Also Papa M. A good dark red, strongly scented. More of a standard HT.
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