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ROSES - Spring/Summer Season 2021

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    April - you were the weakest link - goodbye !...

    Lots of sunshine, yes, but I can't remember in 35 years of growing roses, a worse month...
    East Anglia, England
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I've actually lost a good few canes of two of my Dr Jamain to frost. I've not had that with any rose before now.
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    I like all scents. Except Bathsheba - great plant and pretty flowers but I’m really not a fan of the scent. Too menthol-like - I’ve said before that it reminds me of Fisherman’s Friends. I think that’s apparently myrrh.

    My favourite’s are Old Rose scented ones I think - like The Generous Gardener and Mortimer Sackler. But I also enjoy the wafting sweet scent of Rhapsody in Blue and fruity ones like Royal Jubilee.

    I remember that Lady Emma had a really great scent, but as I only got one bloom from her last year I didn’t get much chance to smell it! I’ve got two now though, having received a replacement, so should hopefully get a better chance this year.

    I’ve not really suffered with the frosts too badly here, it’s been sunny and everything’s growing well but the lack of rain in April isn’t good. Due to be a very wet May though, if the forecast can be believed...which it can’t...ever!
    East Yorkshire
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    I wonder if Dame Judi enjoys having a rose named after her that smells of tar 🤔 I have it but don’t recall the scent as most of the blooms were on the ground. I have it on an obelisk this year so will give it a good sniff. 

    April was pretty crap wasn’t it! 
  • Victoria SpongeVictoria Sponge Posts: 3,502
    edited May 2021
    Welcome to the forum @2000GTV, also @SeahorseFriend and @Oliya who I should have welcome earlier, sorry about that.

    Hope everyone is doing well.

    A mixture of weather due this weekend but hopefully I can spend some time outside in the sun.  A frost again this morning which is getting a bit boring now but on the plus side I collected at least 400 litres of water over the last few days.

    This week I revised my extensive spring bulb and bare root rose list, and discovered I could buy 2 300 litre butts for the same cost!...I think I'd better go through the lists again when I'm in a less reckless mood :#
    Wearside, England.
  • LittlegardenLittlegarden Posts: 105
    I wonder if you have any thornless rose successes? I like the look of Duc de Guiche, but haven’t seen it in real life, has anyone grown this? Is it fussy?

    I am trying out 2 new ones for me this year. 

    Litchfield Angel, after I saw it at Hyde Hall in later summer, was very beautiful. Mine already has black spot after an autumn planting. I cut it out and have sprayed. 

    Paul Neyron, the flower looks very full, but I am yet to see it in real life. 
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    @Littlegarden - Kew Gardens is great and truly thornless. It flowered from May all the way up til when I pruned it in February.
    East Yorkshire
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Welcome from me too @2000GTV, I’m thrilled you have joined us, we can compare notes on growing roses in a warm climate, if not exactly comparable...

    It’s still cold and raining with intermittent thunderstorms here, it’s the start of our ‘monsoon season’ 🌧 🌧 🌧. Here Spring usually arrives early, in February. Summers can be very hot and often humid when the mountains dump rain on us, whilst winters are mostly cold and dry in our mountain valley, 413m altitude. I say usually, but it’s highly unpredictable, wedged as we are between the Pyrenees and the Mediterranean coast. 

    Interesting conversation, @Fire, I’m still convinced you have a touch of synesthesia! Perhaps we all do when it comes to associating smells with rose colour.  Pink La Rose de Molinard smells distinctly and very strongly of grapefruit, though while purple Diamond Eyes is spicy/clove. Munstead Wood is classically dark berry fruits and yellow Golden Celebration is lemon/citrus to me, so they fit the pattern better.

    So what do white roses smell of?!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..what that photo of Dame Judi Dench - so funny in the pot - doesn't reveal is that when she first sniffed the rose at Chelsea, for a photo shoot - she sneezed..  that tarry smell almost had the same effect on me actually..

    ...re the scent of white roses... some of them might have what is usually described today as a musky scent... but this has nothing to do with true musk.. the Hybrid Musk class of roses for instance, is a fanciful designation, as there is little connection to Rosa moschata - the Musk scented rose... that true musk scent which comes from the stamens, not the petals, was considered similar to the scent glands of a little male Musk Deer, found in the Far East..  so it was called Rosa moschata...

    ..if you have 'The Mayflower' or 'Susan Williams-Ellis' roses in your garden, it would be similar to that..  it is nothing like the 'musky' scent found in Hybrid Musks..

    ...the myrrh scent that we get in so many Austins is purely the result of hybridisation, as it's not a scent found in any specie rose.. 
    East Anglia, England
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