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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Had an e-mail from my bank recently saying they are increasing security and all transactions using t'interweb will have to be authenticated by inputting a code they will send to you.Β  My wife doesn't use any form of internet or telephone banking so I asked how they will provide a code to her.Β  Apparently that's not their problem!
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    KT53 said:
    Had an e-mail from my bank recently saying they are increasing security and all transactions using t'interweb will have to be authenticated by inputting a code they will send to you.Β  My wife doesn't use any form of internet or telephone banking so I asked how they will provide a code to her.Β  Apparently that's not their problem!
    If she doesn't use internet banking she doesn't need a code does she?Β  :)

    Gardening in Central NorfolkΒ on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Northern Jo,this isn't a new claim, he's been on these benefits about 15 years,did the back to work assesment interview and it hasn't got through the system that he's done it, lucky he recorded the interview to his PC, so he has proof,but that won't help if they stop the benefits, because you cannot get through to s real live person
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    KT53 said:
    Obelixx said:
    This is where ID cards come in.Β  Possum's Belgian ID card carries her name, date of birth, address, link to driver's license, medical status, national ID number, tax number.Β  Β It can be scanned at home with a simple device and has to be presented for all official business at the council or to open a bank account, vote, move house and register for rates, council services, TV and internet.

    Stops a lot of fraud and makes it easy to get what you need.

    I've never understood why anybody has an objection to ID cards.Β  Unfortunately when they tried in the UK, the "oomun rytes" lot got up on their hind legs.
    We're setting up a new joint bank account, what a pain it is. We both need two forms of ID, one from each list. Most of which we don't have because bills are online and they only accept letterhead bills. I'm still paper licence (still legal) so until it is changed due to our house move I can't use that apparently. I am basically left with my passport and I fortunately found one letter sent to our new house direct that counts as proof of address.

    Basically we both were only just able to provide the necessary ID and only by going to the actual branch. There's options to do it online but those ID we couldn't produce. So going to the branch presents another level of hassle. It shuts ridiculously early. Something like half past two. We work normal work hours and it's not open Saturday here.

    If we had a national ID like Belgium and many other European countries it would be so much easier. We're idiots for opposing it years ago
  • steephillsteephill Posts: 2,841
    Wait until you are arrested and fined for failing to produce your ID card on demand and see how you feel about it then. Or perhaps it will get more than a bit annoying that every jobsworth in the country decides that they need to see your ID before they will do their job despite them having no need or right to make such demands. ID cards are no panacea despite all the grand claims made for them.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @steephill - that's a bit absurd.

    Belgians know they are supposed to have their ID card on them for normal daily life and, unless you're already doing something worthy or arrest or fines you don't get bother for going to the baker for your daily loaf without one or going jogging.Β  Β It's the size of a bank card so not exactly onerous to carry.

    It's also accepted for travel in and out of the country so no passport needed unless you move abroad.Β  I now have to carry my passport for trips outside France and that's a PITA.
    VendΓ©e - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    steephill said:
    ID cards are no panacea despite all the grand claims made for them.
    But neither are they the source of all ills. You are being monitored all the time. If you don't do anything untoward, you'll never be aware of it. 'They' don't need an ID card to keep an eye on you.Β 

    I'm not suffering from dementia but I can't remember the various identifying numbers that are attached to me by different organisations. I always have to look them up. It is a serious issue with paperless transaction now being the norm - finding your own 'numbers' and proving your ID is becoming very difficult, whilst at the same time, the increase in ID fraud makes the need for such proof more and more pressing.
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    β€œIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    steephill said:
    Wait until you are arrested and fined for failing to produce your ID card on demand and see how you feel about it then. Or perhaps it will get more than a bit annoying that every jobsworth in the country decides that they need to see your ID before they will do their job despite them having no need or right to make such demands. ID cards are no panacea despite all the grand claims made for them.
    Just who asks you for identification now? Probably the same people who will do it after implementation of ID cards. Seriously, how are national ID cards different from say photocard drivers licences or proof of age cards for example. In many countries your driver's licence and national ID card are the same thing which TBH they are effectively that here. If you need to prove your identity say at a bank you often use your photocard drivers licence or passport.

    It seems a little paranoid to think that there's all these people out there in all sorts of organisations waiting for a national ID card system to be put in place to suddenly start asking for that form of ID when they didn't now with other kinds of state provided ID already present to ask for. Sorry if that offends but I really do not understand the mistrust of a national ID card system when you probably have a whole load of identification on you already that you use all the time. Bank cards identify you to your account for withdrawing money or buying things. Drivers licence is used for more than showing the police officer when (less likely these days) he or she stops you for speeding. Then there's the smart phone too. Now I wonder if Google knows more about you than the state?
  • K67K67 Posts: 2,506
    edited April 2021
    And now dont forget if you have had the vaccine they can now trace you by the nanobots in it!

    PS only joking 😷
    PPS. Maybe?Β  πŸ€”

    No I really am joking.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Sophisticated ID cards now have microchips containing loads of info, not just an ID no.Β Β 

    Sophisticated driver's license cards now show your penalty points, or not.

    We are trackable by our mobile phones, car GPS system, purchasing habits thru loyalty cards, credit cards and bank cards and every time we go online we leave a trace that some system or other will capture, collate and exploit.

    There is nowhere t hide unless you go off grid completely so, on the whole, I'd rather have an intelligent ID card system that facilitates access to whatever I may need in terms of state or medical support and doesn't leave me up sh1t creek like so many people in the UK trying to access help from under-trained public servants with inadequate systems and an unhelpful attitude.
    VendΓ©e - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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