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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Then again they might just decide to get their money's worth.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Some do anyway.Β Β 
    VendΓ©e - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    edited April 2021
    Either something is optional or mandatory - you cannot use the back door to make an optional thing mandatory. Where would you then stop? Quite a few things that are optional cause damage to others (or put them at risk) and incur NHS costs.
    We've all known for years and years that driving and burning fossil fuels causes pollution and kills others. I drive - do you?. I heat my house with fossil fuels - do you?Β  What should be my 'punishment'?
    I fully understand the frustration. The Covid vaccination (and rules) seem a no-brainer to me, but others will and do see things differently. I may think they're misguided and you may, but it's still their choice - the same as it's mine to continue to drive.

    As for the banking, I have some problems with the way things are going. I recall the days of halls of people punching in data and people manually verifying signatures. Bank branches manned by people. Then plastic and pins instead of cheques - where the onus fell back on the customer when proof of fraud was required. I hate to think what hassle some poor sods will now have when a 'phone verified' transaction is fraudulently conducted on their account (as it surely will be for someone). But it's like the vaccine in a way eh? The vast majority will work with the 'tech' and all will be fine - some won't accept the 'tech' and will be left behind and others, even though they accept the 'tech' will experience issues.


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited April 2021
    @steveTu ... I see what you’re trying to say ... but it’s not your choice to continue to drive unless you conform to the law ... you must pass your test and continue to to have good enough eyesight and not have uncontrolled swishers. You must maintain your car and have it tested if appropriate. You must have a valid insurance certificate and pay the toad tax. You must also drive in accordance with the law. When the law changes yo forbid the use of fossil-fuelled cars you will not be able to drive a petrol car.

    Β You cannot choose not to do these things and still drive.Β 

    Gardening in Central NorfolkΒ on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I hide my chocolate from my wife as she keeps stealing it all. A bar of chocolate lasts me a week usually but she'll eat it in one sitting if I leave it in the kitchen cupboard. I just went to get a couple of squares out though and found she's topped up my supply. I wonder how long it took her to find it?
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I do agree @Dovefromabove but then we hear stories of idiots causing accidents and having no license/lapsed license, no tax, no insurance, no MOT.Β  The punishments for that are hardly prohibitive and so it goes on.
    VendΓ©e - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Irrespective of whether I abide by the rules or not (I'm not sure whether I drive legally or not is relevant in this case at all - people refusing the vaccine aren't doing anything other than exercise a legal choice) - I choose between driving 'legally' (and knowingly then damaging mine and others health) and not driving. I still drive. People smoke when they know it potentially harms themselves and others. Smoking, driving, drinking, walking on Scottish hills without adequate clothing (!) all put others at risk to one degree or another. We all (well, maybe someone somewhere doesn't) do stuff that we know (now) harms others. We're all but under flight paths for Gatwick and HeathrowΒ  and near holding areas - and last summer the lack of contrails in the sky was noticeable - hopefully, this year the same.Β  But, even though people may be aware of that pollution, should people stop 'optional' flying?



    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited April 2021
    Gently open a tissue box orΒ  something similarly boring and remove the contents. Insert your chocolate, close the boxΒ  and hide it in plain sight
    If she's not keen on a particular foodstuff, that's another container that would be good to go . @wild edges
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Mobile phones do not work here, so I have to useΒ  the land line as a method of identification. My bank and other financial companies seemed to have some difficulty accepting this at first, but it is now sorted.
    These methods are put in place to help prevent fraud, so we should be grateful [ now where have I written my passwords down ? ]
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    I hide my chocolate from my wife as she keeps stealing it all. A bar of chocolate lasts me a week usually but she'll eat it in one sitting if I leave it in the kitchen cupboard. I just went to get a couple of squares out though and found she's topped up my supply. I wonder how long it took her to find it?

    My wife does that with wine, apart from the topping up supply bit.
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