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The New ROSE Season 2021...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @didyw
    ..oh wow, that's gorgeous... lovely house too.... absolutely love your Banksian rose there... please show more photos of your roses this season, we shall look forward to them I'm sure..
    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Marlorena I bought the same thing as @Omori did last year.
    This one https://www.styleroses.co.uk/buy-plants/sulphur-rose
    But I bought it on eBay for a slightly lower price with postage.
    They also sell a spray version but the powder version is more cost-effective and you can mix concentration as needed (higher in winter).
    I want to use it to kill BS spores on the canes and on the ground, hoping it will delay reinfection in the summer. I will probably use it for the most susceptible roses during the growing season too but not as a regular regime for all roses.
  • I need to pick your brains on hardwood cuttings.. I intend to have a little trial with those pruned canes this week, many of them already have buds and even new leaves unravelling.. should I pick those off seeing as I am going to use them as cuttings? 

    I’m also going to try to root a batch of them in water to see if I would have any success with those... 

    Do cuttings like to be kept in the dark or the reverse..? 

    I’ve so far not been successful with rooting rose cuttings.. not even once! 😔
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @celcius_kkw Take a segment of cane ideally pencil thick with four leaf nodes. The bottom two you will remove the leaves from and bury in a light compost mix. Add perlite to keep it well drained and easy for roots to form. Keep it moist but not soaking, and leave outside somewhere sheltered from wind/sun. Removing flower buds is a good idea to save on the rose putting energy into them. Good luck, you normally need to take quite a few cuttings as they can tend to rot, but some will make it through. 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @edhelka
    ...sounds good, I like the fact it's not a pesticide... but I'm so anti-spray as you know... I'll be interested to hear how it works for you and how often you will use it in the summer..
    East Anglia, England
  • JessicaSJessicaS Posts: 870
    edited February 2021
    @Marlorena I do exactly the same as @edhelka with the sulphur rose as well (including the mixing the refils myself as its more cost effective!).  It helped last year to stop blackspot spreading so much, Im hoping the same this year to get it undercontrol.  I read this about it too: Sulphur and Roses - The Rose Society UK Im also going to blast the worst offenders with Rose Clear (the fungicide only, not the ultra one that kills bugs) to try and get on top of it before the insects all start to come out.
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    This is my gardening excitement today - garden lawn wreckage is being patioed and gravelled in a couple of weeks and the new fencing just arrived (I have 5 big dogs, my borders just wouldnt survive otherwise!) and I just tested putting it up (utilising the good old bamboo canes for speed!) to see what it looks like.  Lots more roses going in those borders this year!  I love it, I am so excited.  My two big rose beds with most of my existing roses in are in the middle of the open area (expanding slightly to add another 2 to each bed) with tunnels through the middle for lazy hounds to go through, they will probably just get some very low border fencing at the edges that things can poke through just to stop trampling paws in my lavender!  I put a couple of pictures below of some sections. 

    I mocked up a somewhat dodgy plan of the planned new look (patio circle and gravel) on microsoft Paint and included pictures of my existing roses and bigger shrubs/ trees to work out where to put the new roses colour etc wise.  I think it works?  I like to pack them in. The rest are for out the front which is a blank slate. 

    Top left side: lady of shallot (trained on an obelisk) with copper lights and a little orangey red rose I was given.  Ive ordered some red Achillea and some blue Nepeta to make it pop. 
    Top: "Fabulous" and my existing Rhapsody in Blue.  Ive planted pink Echinacea and yellow Coreopsis up there too.

    "mocha Rosa" and "Simply Gorgeous" at the front, and "Black Bacarra" to go with my existing red, huge climbing Albertine and Seagull.

    Top right side: First great Western and Ebb Tide joining my existing Fragrant Delight and Waltz time. 

    Bottom Left:
    Open arms to climb the fence

    Bottom right
    Zephrine Droughin up the raised bed side of the arbour, Clematis Armandii apple blossom is up the other. 

    Left middle Rose bed: Ive added "Abracadabra", "Harry Wheatcroft" and "Lady Marmalade" to the existing Purple tiger, Glenfidditch, Mountbatten and Rosa Des Cistercians. Underplanting with some dwarf blue salvias and Nepetas etc

    Right Middle rose bed: Ive added "Lavender Ice" to my established "Brother Cadfael" and "Sweet Syrie"  and added "Raspberry Ripple" to my existing angel eyes and Eyes for you, and an unamed pink thats in there. Underplanting with some dwarf blue salvias and Nepetas etc



  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @didyw, what a wonderful sunny rose, very cheering to see on a miserably rainy day!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @JessicaS
    ...you're so clever with that microsoft paint... I've looked at using it too but it's all double dutch to me..  I do hope it all works out as you've planned it,  it's a great way to match everything up... and all those roses !..  I've got black railings similar to yours.. I much prefer it to wood..  my Greyhound could leap over it if he wanted to, but never tried, although I've watched him think about doing so...

    ..I've seen that Greenacres report before, of course it is by the maker, but I would be confident about its efficacy if I wanted to use it..  however, my doubts continue as I'm not convinced it's good for the soil, but this is just a personal preference and need not deter anyone else.. but I suppose I should use something as my soil ph is a whopping 8.1 generally, a few pockets are lower.. I'm surprised anything grows, but goes to show, you don't actually need a lower ph for roses on rootstock... own roots can be a different matter though..

    ..my garden is going to look modest this summer compared to many of you, so I'll be keeping a close eye on progress...

    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Marlorena said:
    ..I've seen that Greenacres report before, of course it is by the maker, but I would be confident about its efficacy if I wanted to use it..  however, my doubts continue as I'm not convinced it's good for the soil, but this is just a personal preference and need not deter anyone else.. but I suppose I should use something as my soil ph is a whopping 8.1 generally, a few pockets are lower.. 
    I have the same doubts, don't want to harm mycorrhizal fungi and other beneficial organisms in the soil. That's why I only want to do it in winter and not to do it regularly. On the other hand, it is only sulphur, the same sulphur that's used for altering the pH and it occurs naturally in soil. I believe it kills fungal spores on contact (on leaves or canes) but a much higher concentration of it would be needed to kill fungi in the soil.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...today I splashed out and bought another 'Special Brother' rose plus one called 'Crazy In Love' which is rather a twee name, but I wanted a white floribunda...
    ....also a load of seeds from Chilterns... I gave up seeds but with things as they are ...
    East Anglia, England
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