@SeahorseFriend, welcome to roses from me too we love new members, all the more lovely roses to see!
Yes that’s the one @floralies, does seem very expensive. They seem to use it a lot in the US, must be cheaper there or they are even more obsessed with their roses than we are!
@Marlorena, two words re the Olive, Other Half. I value my life too much to even suggest it 😆
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Yes @Marlorena it is the boundary wall, but it's a substantial Victorian affair, so I imagine the foundations go to a good depth. I've got 'Constance Spry' growing underneath it, so in the years to come I'm hoping to have fragrant roses growing up and along it.
Yes @Marlorena it is the boundary wall, but it's a substantial Victorian affair, so I imagine the foundations go to a good depth. I've got 'Constance Spry' growing underneath it, so in the years to come I'm hoping to have fragrant roses growing up and along it.
You may be surprised there Pete. many Victorian terrace houses were build on nothing but 3 courses of brick footings, no concrete foundations at all...
@Fire ..well, some ornamental trees would be nice.. I can have them at the back but not the front. due to drains or something.. a garden doesn't seem right without a small tree in it.. I'm trying to find an excuse to plant a small Sorbus at the back but too many roses..
@SeahorseFriend ..no, Bonica doesn't have any scent, so that's out.. however it does grow much larger than what you might have read... they often list it for ground cover, which is a load of nonsense.. a floppy 6 x 8 feet for me..
'Felicia' is wonderful, and thornless.. unfortunately, it doesn't look great after a thunderstorm.. about 5 x 8 feet wide.. The AM about 6 x 5 feet.. very heavy with blooms, weighs it down.. fabulous rose.. scent could be stronger but can't have everything..
I don't know what size you want, but Gentle Hermione will also grow much bigger than stated... we mustn't take what nurseries say as gospel.. they don't want to frighten people, so their size estimates are often conservative... it has good rain resistance and strongly scented, what they call myrrh.. very pretty rose... I only lost mine due to a new fence going up.. Royal Jubilee is nice too, grows large.. has everything.. best of luck with your choices..
@peteS ...your roses will look terrific together... remember, Monty Don has had Charles de Mills in his garden for 25 years... I've never heard him complain about it.. it's more a case of potential rather than actual, for us... but best be aware.. I was advised by Peter Beales not to plant it against my low, flimsy fence, so I declined it altogether...
@edhelka .. pretty garden... in the first picture the shape is rather cute but a bit too fussy for me.. what you've done is more informal..
And two more planting spots...
..it is said that if we worry about what neighbours or others think of our gardens, then we end up gardening for them, and not for ourselves.. and that just isn't right..
I sometimes feel like I am gardening for future owners. Or at least to make it easier for them (to get rid of everything). And to keep the house easy to sell. Without these concerns, I would probably go for more than I have now. Lots of climbing roses, vertical structures, no lawn...
@Marlorena Falstaff has a scent but not that strong, I have William Shakespeare which has a much stronger scent and also keeps it colour in the heat and sun. One of my best for scent is Evelyn.
@floralies, that’s good to know about WS2000. How is the health and also the growth habit? I have read a few reviews that say its a little lax in habit. After a bit of a wimpy start, I am impressed with the sturdiness and health of another old Austin purple/red The Prince, so was considering getting him a companion!
@SeahorseFriend what about good old Gertrude Jekyll? It’s a large, healthy upright shrub for me, beautiful blooms and the fragrance is really strong old rose. Don’t be fooled by DA listing it separately as both shrub and climber, it’s the same rose, just a matter of how you prune it. Is repeat flowering an issue? GJ is not the best repeater, but the first flush is fabulous. Another large, sturdy shrub I would love to have is Yolande d’Aragon, but as I don’t actually have it (yet!) that’s just a thought, not a recommendation.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
You beat me to it @Nollie, I wondered why nobody had recommended GJ, mine gets to at least 5-6ft x 4ft or so and as you say, the perfume is divine. Just seen my very first bud and it's on my Zephyrine Drouhin rose which is a surprise. This rose has always struggled a bit in its situation (too hot, dry, poor soil) but I have made great efforts this last year to keep it well watered and fed and it's paying off. It's trained on a wooden rose arch (which incidentally is now rocking a bit!) and can't be moved.
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Yes that’s the one @floralies, does seem very expensive. They seem to use it a lot in the US, must be cheaper there or they are even more obsessed with their roses than we are!
@Marlorena, two words re the Olive, Other Half. I value my life too much to even suggest it 😆
many Victorian terrace houses were build on nothing but 3 courses of brick footings, no concrete foundations at all...
...ha... say no more..
@Fire
..well, some ornamental trees would be nice.. I can have them at the back but not the front. due to drains or something.. a garden doesn't seem right without a small tree in it.. I'm trying to find an excuse to plant a small Sorbus at the back but too many roses..
@SeahorseFriend
..no, Bonica doesn't have any scent, so that's out.. however it does grow much larger than what you might have read... they often list it for ground cover, which is a load of nonsense.. a floppy 6 x 8 feet for me..
'Felicia' is wonderful, and thornless.. unfortunately, it doesn't look great after a thunderstorm.. about 5 x 8 feet wide.. The AM about 6 x 5 feet.. very heavy with blooms, weighs it down.. fabulous rose.. scent could be stronger but can't have everything..
I don't know what size you want, but Gentle Hermione will also grow much bigger than stated... we mustn't take what nurseries say as gospel.. they don't want to frighten people, so their size estimates are often conservative... it has good rain resistance and strongly scented, what they call myrrh.. very pretty rose... I only lost mine due to a new fence going up..
Royal Jubilee is nice too, grows large.. has everything.. best of luck with your choices..
...your roses will look terrific together... remember, Monty Don has had Charles de Mills in his garden for 25 years... I've never heard him complain about it.. it's more a case of potential rather than actual, for us... but best be aware.. I was advised by Peter Beales not to plant it against my low, flimsy fence, so I declined it altogether...
@SeahorseFriend what about good old Gertrude Jekyll? It’s a large, healthy upright shrub for me, beautiful blooms and the fragrance is really strong old rose. Don’t be fooled by DA listing it separately as both shrub and climber, it’s the same rose, just a matter of how you prune it. Is repeat flowering an issue? GJ is not the best repeater, but the first flush is fabulous. Another large, sturdy shrub I would love to have is Yolande d’Aragon, but as I don’t actually have it (yet!) that’s just a thought, not a recommendation.
Just seen my very first bud and it's on my Zephyrine Drouhin rose which is a surprise. This rose has always struggled a bit in its situation (too hot, dry, poor soil) but I have made great efforts this last year to keep it well watered and fed and it's paying off. It's trained on a wooden rose arch (which incidentally is now rocking a bit!) and can't be moved.