Hi Marlorena, I've been venturing onto other websites recently, (other than DA's) and I came across a rose on the Peter Beales site called Dusky Maiden, a lovely looking dark, pot sized rose, which measures 2' x 2' which I rather fancy, and the info states it belongs to a family called Polyanthas and Older Floribundas. Obviously I'm not familiar with the group, but I've no doubt you will be and could tell me anything about it.
I think 'Aquarell' is a much better name than 'Perfect Harmony'. Sometimes, I don't understand the renaming. I can understand renaming a rose with hard to pronounce (or remember or relate to) German or French name but 'Aquarell' feels quite international.
...I like both names, and looking at the rose I'm liking it more too... I hope to show another photo later.. it is of course a sport of the famous 'August Luise' ['Rachel'] rose that so many people Stateside rave about... I thought I would prefer this colour..
...Polyantha roses are small flowering little roses, with continuous bloom right through till autumn.. very suitable for pot culture.. Floribundas are really taller, larger flowered Polyanthas.... in fact the name polyantha did not used to be strictly correct, they should be called Poly-Pom roses but no one ever calls them that... they originated in Lyon, France in the late 19th C, and were the forerunners of Floribundas.. they derive from a wild Japanese rose crossed with a dwarf rose from China that was growing in England in the early 19th C.. but they have been much hybridised since..
...the only one I have is called 'Marie Pavie'... I have not grown 'Dusky Maiden'.. I can tell you enjoy deep red roses as you have mentioned it before I'm sure... and I normally like to advise only on those I have grown, rather than reading it from some other source, but I have no choice with this one, so I presume it gets its strong scent from Etoile de Hollande, a parent... and according to reports the colour holds well, and is a very deep red..
Incidentally David Austin used this rose in his breeding of his earlier red roses,.. the first dusky red rose of his 'Chianti' is an offspring of Dusky Maiden, so if the late Mr Austin liked it that much, I'm sure you will too...
We don’t have many roses in this garden, but the moving of a shed and compost heap and the erection of a new fence alongside our Quiet Corner (where we like to sit with a coffee and read or draw) has created a new planting opportunity ... an area a bit bigger than 1m x 1m against a 6’ west-facing fence, shaded to the south by a large ash tree some 25’ away.
Our garden is to the southwest of Norwich. The soil is free draining loam over chalk and has been improved a bit over the years by a fair bit of leaf litter and more recently with garden compost. On this free-draining soil we are quite used to watering regularly and generously during dry spells.
We’d like a well-scented repeat flowering shrub-type rose with a pinkish colour and around 4-5’ in height
Many years ago I wanted a R. Cornelia but Austin were out of stock and they sent me R. Buff Beauty instead ... a lovely rose and I was very happy with it at the time. However I still like the look of Cornelia ... have any of you grown it and if so do you think the spot we have is suitable for it?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
@Dovefromabove ...yes the spot would be ok, but Cornelia grows wider than tall.. 4 foot high is fine, but expect 6 to 8 or even 10 foot in width, that's how she likes to grow... I have it on a low fence.... here are a couple of pics... I'm north of you and she does well here.. ..it has a musky scent, some people say it wafts, but in my windy area I don't always notice... best on still days for that..
...here with Orlaya grandiflora.. ..another year with Hesperis and foxgloves..
PeteS... 4 to 5 weeks is a fair wait... there's a rose I want to order from them but I might leave it now till bare root season if it's that long... ..just think, in Dusky Maiden you will have the 'grandmother' to DA's red roses...
Wow!.. I love it... whilst I might not want a hedge of this, I do like this gayly coloured mix and it makes a change from the Austin pinks and sombre moods of Munstead Wood etc..
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were out of stock and they sent me R. Buff Beauty instead ... a lovely rose and I was very happy with it at the time. However I still like the look of Cornelia ... have any of you grown it and if so do you think the spot we have is suitable for it?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
...yes the spot would be ok, but Cornelia grows wider than tall.. 4 foot high is fine, but expect 6 to 8 or even 10 foot in width, that's how she likes to grow... I have it on a low fence.... here are a couple of pics... I'm north of you and she does well here..
..it has a musky scent, some people say it wafts, but in my windy area I don't always notice... best on still days for that..
...here with Orlaya grandiflora..
..another year with Hesperis and foxgloves..
..just think, in Dusky Maiden you will have the 'grandmother' to DA's red roses...
'Aquarell' / 'Perfect Harmony'