When buying old roses (well any rose thinking about it) is there any advantage to be gained waiting and buying them in bare root form as opposed to now in container form, as there are a number of old roses I like I could buy now in a pot.
@Jason-3 ..Jason, no, all DA UK roses, and those from other vendors, are budded onto rootstock with a few exceptions amongst the specie type roses, which very few people buy, that do not take to budding and are either propagated by cuttings or from suckers... I'm not talking about supermarket roses in little pots, as they are often grown from cuttings, like 3 in a pot or somesuch..
...It is different for U.S growers. They often enjoy own root roses as they grow better in their local conditions, than those on rootstocks, which can be problematic in some areas of the U.S.. various rootstocks are used there, for different areas, with the own root availability another option.. one of the reasons they like own root is because of the vastness of their country, shipping costs can be very high across States - own root roses are smaller and can reduce the costs of shipping considerably... there are also restrictions on moving plant material between some States.. .. very much depends on local conditions or the choice of the gardener... own root roses would be a problem for us both commercially and because of the variability in our soils...
Today's show and tell is Ness from Trevor White, a new purchase for me last winter. It actually opened yesterday but I was too tired to post. Seems very healthy so far, has a bit of something going on at the tip of a cane but I'm ignoring it. Buds/underside of petals are a mid to bright pink and I noticed this morning that the flowers had half closed again before the sun moved onto them. I don't know if I'm 100% sold on it (although there is nothing to dislike🤔) I think the mix of paler open flowers and bright pink buds will appeal to me when it's older/more productive. I did get a waft of scent once when I swept past and to the sniff it has a fairly strong smell which I will describe as 'rose' (being a peasant).
@Marlorena Makes perfect sense, thanks for clarifying. It confused me some months ago, when I was reading that QOS was grown from cutting as opposed to rootstock. It must of been the US DA website
Iceberg starting to bloom. This is in the shadier and sheltered end of my rope structure as I was hoping this would help the blooms last longer and stay white.
I also have lower down growth on Aruthur Bell which I'm glad about as next year it may not look so sparse!
Sir John Mills continues to look good, this first bloom has lasted ages and some of the clusters are now starting to follow suite. I'm so glad I got in touch with Beales last year for advice and didnt dig it up because I really thought I'd killed it. True testament to the robustness of roses x
Burgundy Ice - fewer- petalled and more open in style than many online photos and the dusky purple tones often shown are only evident on fading. I still like it though, as both colour phases really suit the new east border:
Stormy Weather, looking pinker than earlier. Again, I don’t mind that, as the overall colour scheme in this border is purple/burgundy/pink/white.
However, where I want the colour to be the colour... In my hot border, initially fire engine red The Prince’s Trust is now blueing and going crispy and it’s only May! I did say this was my last attempt to grow a true red rose in my south-facing border. It’s backed by a stone wall which chucks out heat as well. Cruelty to roses, really.
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..Jason, no, all DA UK roses, and those from other vendors, are budded onto rootstock with a few exceptions amongst the specie type roses, which very few people buy, that do not take to budding and are either propagated by cuttings or from suckers... I'm not talking about supermarket roses in little pots, as they are often grown from cuttings, like 3 in a pot or somesuch..
...It is different for U.S growers. They often enjoy own root roses as they grow better in their local conditions, than those on rootstocks, which can be problematic in some areas of the U.S.. various rootstocks are used there, for different areas, with the own root availability another option.. one of the reasons they like own root is because of the vastness of their country, shipping costs can be very high across States - own root roses are smaller and can reduce the costs of shipping considerably... there are also restrictions on moving plant material between some States..
.. very much depends on local conditions or the choice of the gardener... own root roses would be a problem for us both commercially and because of the variability in our soils...
Seems very healthy so far, has a bit of something going on at the tip of a cane but I'm ignoring it. Buds/underside of petals are a mid to bright pink and I noticed this morning that the flowers had half closed again before the sun moved onto them.
I don't know if I'm 100% sold on it (although there is nothing to dislike🤔) I think the mix of paler open flowers and bright pink buds will appeal to me when it's older/more productive. I did get a waft of scent once when I swept past and to the sniff it has a fairly strong smell which I will describe as 'rose' (being a peasant).
A 14-spot hanging out with some of my aphids:
Makes perfect sense, thanks for clarifying. It confused me some months ago, when I was reading that QOS was grown from cutting as opposed to rootstock. It must of been the US DA website
I also have lower down growth on Aruthur Bell which I'm glad about as next year it may not look so sparse!
Sir John Mills continues to look good, this first bloom has lasted ages and some of the clusters are now starting to follow suite. I'm so glad I got in touch with Beales last year for advice and didnt dig it up because I really thought I'd killed it. True testament to the robustness of roses x
I did some research and it looks like the yellow apollo on the website that someone posted the other day I can not remember what the website was.
Here is today's picture @Marlorena a few more opening. Sorry about the glare!
Teasing Georgia
Stormy Weather, looking pinker than earlier. Again, I don’t mind that, as the overall colour scheme in this border is purple/burgundy/pink/white.
However, where I want the colour to be the colour... In my hot border, initially fire engine red The Prince’s Trust is now blueing and going crispy and it’s only May! I did say this was my last attempt to grow a true red rose in my south-facing border. It’s backed by a stone wall which chucks out heat as well. Cruelty to roses, really.