Desdemona is such a beauty, I have 4 and need more. Just wondering if anyone grew the shrub version of Claire Austin? I have the same collapse issue every year. The below plant has two heavy duty support rings and was supported by a few bamboo canes. It just seems to want to collapse..I removed several damaged canes in the winter and cut everything else back to 50%
@peteS - I grew Old Blush for many years in my last garden. It was always early to bloom, second behind Bengal Crimson and to my nose had a very pleasant primrose type scent. After the first flush it would almost totally defoliate with blackspot but throughout the season it threw out new flowering shoots and flowered on and off into October/November. I'm glad I grew it, but wouldn't grow it again. As with many China roses the foliage is sparse and it has very sharp thorns, like little hooks, hard to avoid. A photo from last year below - not sure why it comes out sideways.
Ooh, you old cynic @Marlorena, but you are probably right! I haven't grown that many but even with my reduced sense of smell I would certainly put Munstead Wood, Lady Emma Hamilton and even Golden Celebration above Harlow Carr. I would have Gertrude Jekyll there tho. Of the Austin’s current catalogue, what would be your best for fragrance?
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alibaba rose. I really like the colour, fragrance and repeat on this rose. The only downside is that the flowers don't last that long. It makes up for it though by flowering so readily. Scent from heaven is a rose I bought with high hopes and I'm actually going to get rid because the flowers last a day tops!
@Jason-3 - Claire Austin is only down as a climber on the DA website. Which is probably why you’re struggling to maintain it as a shrub.
I think I’m right in saying that even when they do sell a separate ‘climber’ and ‘shrub’ for one variety (Gertrude Jekyll) they’re actually the same - just with a different set of pruning instructions.
My Claire Austin is about 2.25 metres high, way above the arbour it's on! It is wired onto the roof of the arbour but very quickly throw up new vertical shoots beyond my reach. I was amazed when the gale force winds a week or so didn't break any of the canes.
Austins will often sell a climber and a shrub version of a rose. I would assume your right re same plant different instructions. However my two fairly established Gertrude jekylls wouldn't climb, even if pruned to do so. Back Claire Austin, I often think that rose was mislabelled. I didn't buy this one from DA direct, but a local nusary who grow it under licence. Whilst the flower is very similar to Claire Austin. It has no scent. I have the Claire Austin climber and that does have a scent. It looks more Tranquility, but the growth is much more vigorous
I remember buying Clair Austin a few years ago and it was sold as a shrub rose at that time, I put in a pot. It didn’t do very well as it was competing with an ants nest in the pot ( l didn’t realise till it was too late) and was a floppy straggly mess. It didn’t last very long and it was given the boot! I saw it last year at David Austin’s garden/ nursery trained on a wall and it looked beautiful.
This is one of my favourite roses flowering at last! Had to take the photo from next doors garden as it always blooms better at that side annoyingly!
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Similarly, I bought Teasing Georgia when it was sold as a shrub rose, however when I received it, the tag said Clg. TG, and it’s only listed that way now.
..at least she's holding her heads up Lizzie... looking good considering the weather..
@Nollie ...just to answer your question about the scent, which is quite a question as everyone's nose is different... and I don't know them all, so of those I've not grown to any degree but have heard about... Emily Bronte, Jude the Obscure, England's Rose ,The Mayflower and Young Lycidas all get good reviews on scent..
..from my own experience I like these. Scepter'd Isle.... Royal Jubilee'... Thomas a Becket'... Eustacia Vye.. Gabriel Oak... Princess A of Kent.. Strawberry Hill... Bathsheba.. Gentle Hermione.. Boscobel...The Poet's Wife.. G Jekyll... Munstead Wood..
however, I would rather have Vanessa Bell than Gertrude Jekyll... and The Ancient Mariner than most of the others on their lists, even though their scents are not quite the tops..
...and there are a number of Old Roses that I prefer over and above most of those, for scent alone.. but that's for another day... but thanks for asking me, I enjoyed the telling...
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Just wondering if anyone grew the shrub version of Claire Austin? I have the same collapse issue every year. The below plant has two heavy duty support rings and was supported by a few bamboo canes. It just seems to want to collapse..I removed several damaged canes in the winter and cut everything else back to 50%
I really like the colour, fragrance and repeat on this rose. The only downside is that the flowers don't last that long. It makes up for it though by flowering so readily.
Scent from heaven is a rose I bought with high hopes and I'm actually going to get rid because the flowers last a day tops!
I think I’m right in saying that even when they do sell a separate ‘climber’ and ‘shrub’ for one variety (Gertrude Jekyll) they’re actually the same - just with a different set of pruning instructions.
Claire Austin
Austins will often sell a climber and a shrub version of a rose. I would assume your right re same plant different instructions. However my two fairly established Gertrude jekylls wouldn't climb, even if pruned to do so.
Back Claire Austin, I often think that rose was mislabelled. I didn't buy this one from DA direct, but a local nusary who grow it under licence. Whilst the flower is very similar to Claire Austin. It has no scent. I have the Claire Austin climber and that does have a scent. It looks more Tranquility, but the growth is much more vigorous
@Nollie
...just to answer your question about the scent, which is quite a question as everyone's nose is different... and I don't know them all, so of those I've not grown to any degree but have heard about... Emily Bronte, Jude the Obscure, England's Rose ,The Mayflower
and Young Lycidas all get good reviews on scent..
..from my own experience I like these.
Scepter'd Isle.... Royal Jubilee'... Thomas a Becket'... Eustacia Vye.. Gabriel Oak... Princess A of Kent.. Strawberry Hill... Bathsheba.. Gentle Hermione.. Boscobel...The Poet's Wife.. G Jekyll... Munstead Wood..
however, I would rather have Vanessa Bell than Gertrude Jekyll... and The Ancient Mariner than most of the others on their lists, even though their scents are not quite the tops..
...and there are a number of Old Roses that I prefer over and above most of those, for scent alone.. but that's for another day... but thanks for asking me, I enjoyed the telling...