Forum home Plants
This Forum will close on Wednesday 27 March, 2024. Please refer to the announcement on the Discussions page for further detail.

..the new ROSE season 2020...

1249250252254255599

Posts

  • celcius_kkwcelcius_kkw Posts: 753
    Hi everyone 

    I am just wondering if any of you who grow Lady Emma Hamilton and Lady of Shallot find the blooms to be very short lived? I find that extreme heat (like the heatwave we’ve had in the last two days) and rain seem to decimate the blooms. In addition to that Lady Emma Hamilton’s blooms don’t seem to last more than two days in general.. when it’s hot the blooms appear to bloom and scatter on the same day! I find that hugely disappointing given it’s heavenly perfume and I don’t get to enjoy it over a decent period. 

    These are in stark contrast to my other roses like Sceptr’d Isle and Gertrude Jekyll. Even Boscobel and Desdemona’s flowers last way longer than my two ladies :( 
  • celcius_kkwcelcius_kkw Posts: 753
    @Omori Thanks.. I planted mine last year so it’s in its second year now.. let’s just hope it was just the extreme heat that caused it to wilt so quickly.. my MW did well initially on the season being the first to bloom but since then it has been hit very badly by blackspots and powdery mildrew.. I pretty much defoliated the whole plant but left the buds on.. which in hindsight was the wrong move as the remaining buds bloomed very slowly and only produced tiny flowers. I’ve now pruned it all again.. but the new shoots are showing signs of powdery mildrew again. I might spray it just once and see what happens. I try my best to avoid it especially during flowering season as I don’t want the roses around it to pick up the fungicide.. given I am always sniffing them..
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @celcius_kkw I have both LEH and LoS, both 3yrs old. LEH does ball in the rain and although mine don’t shatter quickly, they turn a horrible pale splotchy colour in the heat. However, I did get the gorgeous fragrance on early blooms for the first time this year. LoS is a hopeless, blackspot magnet, few blooms and little to no fragrance. After a reasonable half flush to begin with, nothing. Those I do get are sad-looking blooms that last a day or two at most. LEH is OH’s favourite so can’t get rid of it, but we are both in agreement on LoS - it’s gotta go! Most DA’s suffer in the heat.

    My absolute worst DA rose this year though is LD Braithwaite. The first one started off fabulously and I loved it, so I made the mistake of adding another two to make a trio. Now all a sorry dying, disease-ridden, bloomless mess. Got fed up of clearing up a confetti of BS leaves every day, so am just about to dig them out:

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • celcius_kkwcelcius_kkw Posts: 753
    @Nollie Your experience certainly sounds very similar to mine regarding LEH.. but that perfume though, I am not thinking of getting rid of it yet but I find myself clearing up all its petals on the floor every single day lol

    I do get a mild-medium fragrance from LoS and the young blooms are beautifully apricot.. but that again lasts for just a couple of days and they turn into a loose dishevelled form which isn’t very attractive.. 

     Your LD Braithwaite sounds rather like my MW! I’m giving it one more chance till the end of the season, but instead of giving up altogether if it doesn’t perform for the second flush I might get in touch with DA to ask for a replacement. All it’s canes are very spindly despite being in the second year and it didn’t do well either in the first year (which I put it down to being in a windy spot) - but having moved it to the prime sheltered spot on my balcony this year it still hasn’t quite performed..
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    Thanks @Fire - I avoided taking wider shots of my garden last year as everything was so bare and patchy, being quite new. I stuck to close up photos. Its beginning to get to a point now where I’m quite happy with how it looks, although still all work in progress.

    Speaking of blooms lasting - my Emily Bronte blooms have seem to last quite a long time even with the heat and then heavy rains - same with Royal Jubilee and Princess Alexandra of Kent.

    Ive only had one bloom so far on Lady of Shalott but it’s lasted quite a few days and still there now.

    That said - she’s on a wall, with a shed on one side, so very sheltered. The blooms will stay on for longer somewhere like that than they would in a more exposed position - like your balcony I’d imagine @celcius_kkw



    Lady Emma Hamilton started with at least 5 canes and she’s now down to two. They just went black. But at least there is growth on these. 

    Most disappointing so far is Eustacia Vye. She’s just sat there, growing tips all fell off ages ago. But yesterday I spotted a new red shoot from low down. So something’s happening at least.

    In fact her growth is so poor I’m wondering if there’s something wrong with where I put her. It has crossed my mind that it could be to do with the crab apple nearby, possibly causing something like replant sickness. But the crabapple is very young, only been in two years and she’s not particularly close.
    East Yorkshire
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    edited June 2020
    MW being spindly is just the way it is, unfortunately. It’s not really a good rose because of that, but I’m still keeping it because the blooms are just too special. I feel really bad because early on I gave MW as a gift and I feel it was maybe more of a curse 😬 

    I’m hoping DA release an improved form though so I can get rid of it...

    If anyone is thinking to get Red Perfumella, which is a lovely fragrant and healthy rose (HT), I would definitely put it somewhere with afternoon shade.

    Crispy crunchy fried Red Perfumella:




  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    I was surprised when I first read your reports of Munstead Wood being spindly - as the only one I’ve ever seen in the flesh, was a very robust looking shrub.
    East Yorkshire
Sign In or Register to comment.