@Nollie ...fabulous colours on your rose... I think 'Othello' is similar and also has a great fragrance.. I see 'Othello' locally offered which is why I mention it.. my problem with these rich dark red Austins is that they need lots of water in summer and I just can't provide that these days in my increasingly dry conditions.. ..re the Parahebe... it could be that the blotch in the centre is more pink in this variety than in Avalanche which tends to be maroon coloured.. other than that I can't see any difference.. I hope they do well for you, it will be good to know how much frost they can withstand..
@Fire ...a purist would say your rose is a grade B sold at grade A prices but in the current climate I'm more forgiving and there's nothing wrong with your rose, both canes are a good thickness.. and with these older varieties we sometimes have to accept they don't make the growth so quickly.. also DA offer a 5 year guarantee, that has to be accounted for in their prices, nobody else offers that and as far as I know it's fairly no quibble too... so that's why I tend to accept what I get from them unless it turns out to be a wrong i.d. rose..
My today's selection - Bathsheba and Ebb tide. They are looking darker in photo. I like Bathsheba's foliage. I think i like dainty foliage like the poet's wife and Bathsheba.
@Nollie ( and Marlorena for the Othello rec ) -- sounds to me with my challenged and tiny space I should stick to "easier" roses for now until I see if they will actually thrive in my front patch! That second photo you posted Nollie is pretty much my idea of the perfect deep hued rose. But what do I know.
@Fire ...a purist would say your rose is a grade B sold at grade A prices but in the current climate I'm more forgiving and there's nothing wrong with your rose, both canes are a good thickness.. and with these older varieties we sometimes have to accept they don't make the growth so quickly.. also DA offer a 5 year guarantee, that has to be accounted for in their prices, nobody else offers that and as far as I know it's fairly no quibble too... so that's why I tend to accept what I get from them unless it turns out to be a wrong i.d. rose..
Today I've done some more shuffling in the garden. It's exciting picturing things for next year. Moved a grass and the verbena. Managed to whack myself in the eye with a verbena flower head!
I also removed two roses from their pots. Arthur Bell and Remembrance. Remembrance was completely dead - no big loss. Arthur Bell had big roots!
I've soaked it and bagged it up ready to take to the allotment to plant tomorrow.
Since I've not got any rose orders coming this year I'll have to make do with my own!
Unfortunately I've not got my own branded packaging 😉
Its great to see so many of you with some really splendid roses still flowering - gives me hope for next year!
@Victoria Sponge I look forward to comparing notes. I must admit, I've always seen Alfred and Mousseline bracketed together as the same thing. I dithered over 'Perle d'Or' quite a lot as I really wanted a pair of apricot flushed roses either side of a path. I eventually chose something else for the pair but couldn't resist a single 'Perle' as well!
@edhelka thanks for the info on your grasses. Carex does look nice too. I'm looking forward to seeing what DA brings out next year too. Going to hold off buying anything else until then.
@Marlorena thank you for the photo of your Hakonechloa 'Aureola'. It looks really nice. Good to know it does well in many situations which means I have more places I could put a couple.
The Prince looks amazing @Nollie. I really like all the variations in colour.
@Victoria Sponge I had Alfred de Dalmas on my longlist this year, together with some other mosses. It's said to be a pretty good repeater, better than Quatre Saisons Blanc Mousseaux or Autumn Damask, but not as good as modern roses (basically portland/hybrid perpetual category). AdD and Mousseline are the same rose in commerce (at least probably in most places today) but not originally, that's why they have separate listings on HMF. HMF says "Most 'Alfred de Dalmas' in commerce are actually 'Mousseline' by Moreau & Robert" which makes sense to me because it gives the rose the later date (1881 rather than 1855) which sounds more consistent with the good repeating.
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...fabulous colours on your rose... I think 'Othello' is similar and also has a great fragrance.. I see 'Othello' locally offered which is why I mention it.. my problem with these rich dark red Austins is that they need lots of water in summer and I just can't provide that these days in my increasingly dry conditions..
..re the Parahebe... it could be that the blotch in the centre is more pink in this variety than in Avalanche which tends to be maroon coloured.. other than that I can't see any difference.. I hope they do well for you, it will be good to know how much frost they can withstand..
@Fire
...a purist would say your rose is a grade B sold at grade A prices but in the current climate I'm more forgiving and there's nothing wrong with your rose, both canes are a good thickness.. and with these older varieties we sometimes have to accept they don't make the growth so quickly.. also DA offer a 5 year guarantee, that has to be accounted for in their prices, nobody else offers that and as far as I know it's fairly no quibble too... so that's why I tend to accept what I get from them unless it turns out to be a wrong i.d. rose..
I like how you think and plan and implement everything.
Thanks. I'll make do.
I also removed two roses from their pots. Arthur Bell and Remembrance. Remembrance was completely dead - no big loss. Arthur Bell had big roots!
I've soaked it and bagged it up ready to take to the allotment to plant tomorrow.
Since I've not got any rose orders coming this year I'll have to make do with my own!
Unfortunately I've not got my own branded packaging 😉
@Victoria Sponge I look forward to comparing notes. I must admit, I've always seen Alfred and Mousseline bracketed together as the same thing. I dithered over 'Perle d'Or' quite a lot as I really wanted a pair of apricot flushed roses either side of a path. I eventually chose something else for the pair but couldn't resist a single 'Perle' as well!
@Marlorena thank you for the photo of your Hakonechloa 'Aureola'. It looks really nice. Good to know it does well in many situations which means I have more places I could put a couple.
The Prince looks amazing @Nollie. I really like all the variations in colour.
Lovely cuttings @newbie77
AdD and Mousseline are the same rose in commerce (at least probably in most places today) but not originally, that's why they have separate listings on HMF. HMF says "Most 'Alfred de Dalmas' in commerce are actually 'Mousseline' by Moreau & Robert" which makes sense to me because it gives the rose the later date (1881 rather than 1855) which sounds more consistent with the good repeating.