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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited May 2020
    ... a few points about planting in a group of 3...
    I do this with some roses, that are 3.5 foot or smaller... what I have learned is that, yes it does create a fuller more satisfying effect, but if you don't know the rose, and you find you are disappointed in the first year, you might feel that's 3 roses wasted - all that money..  so what I do is grow one of a kind, and if I really like it, I will consider making room for 2 more... 2 is ok but I think 3 is better..

    ... Vendors like David Austin want to sell you roses.. that's what their business is all about.. of course they want you to buy 3 of the same... for landscapers, those with large gardens, or like me who are sure of the rose - maybe can afford to do that... it's all about show for some places.. but for us home gardeners you need to be aware that it's business, and you don't have to get caught up in that influence..

    ...if you enjoy cutting roses for the house, as I do, and you have a favourite variety, this is another opportunity where a group of 3 comes in useful... otherwise there may not be many left on a single bush to look at...

    I've been waiting to see Lady Waterlow and that's a striking orange on Super Trouper..
     
    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    I would grow groups of 3s or more if I had a large garden. I can imagine in a deep and long border (2x20m), single roses could get lost. But in my garden, everything is small and one medium bush can easily take 2/3 of my borders or even a full border with some spill to the paths (I have quite a lot of narrow borders/spaces). I am considering doing a short rose hedge in the front garden and if I do, will probably repeat the varieties there.
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    I’ll be doing some group planting on the allotment with cuttings
    East Yorkshire
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @katsa Personally I would either go with one rose, or three. Three in a triangle shape give the illusion of one large shrub, whereas two wouldn’t have that effect. But one rose on its own can be effective. 
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 278
    Thanks @Mr. Vine Eye and @Bright star. I'll try to keep the palette the same - any recommendations for roses to complement roald dahl? I was tempted by:

    - DA's emily bronte;
    - DA's Olivia Rose Austin;
    - DA's Eustacia Vye
    - DA's Queen of sweden
    - Rosen-Tantau's Matthias Claudius Rose
    - Kordes Herkules
    - Kordes Cinderella

    Does anyone grow these? Or could you recommend better alternatives? We live in the Peak District, so it can get quite windy and cold and rainy. The garden is south facing and the soil is okay...

    I'll continue to drool over everyone else's rose gardens...
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 278
    Thanks @Omori . I might leave the two roald dahl's currently planted as they've been in the ground for just over a month, and then come winter when they're dormant move one. Much to my husbands amusement as I seem to be playing a lot of musical plants! 

  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 278
    edited May 2020
    @Marlorena - thank you for your insight. I'll definitely explore other roses - I love flowers in the house so will have to be judicious on how much I cut! I'll leave some space in case I do want to triple up. Or if I'm not that fussed about the rose, consider moving it ... I just want some flowers now!

    Do you have any experience with the roses I listed? I've been given some money for roses for my birthday and its burning a hole in my pocket ...

    @edhelka my garden has funny shaped borders. So I think I'll be in a similar position as you where if I go rose mad i'll end up with roses overtaking the whole garden ...


  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Katsa
    ...I only have 1 of those roses... I'm not sure those Kordes German roses will ship to the UK?   only bare roots in autumn I think.. not their potted roses.. you might have to check on that.. I'm sure I recall they don't ship their plant-o-fix pots..

    ...enjoy your birthday bonanza of roses.. !
    East Anglia, England
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 278
    edited May 2020
    That's good to know @Marlorena. I'll focus on the David Austin's. Which one do you have? 
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