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  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    Great photos and roses @celcius_kkw, an illustration on how to grow roses in pots if you ask me. Rather less great is this rather feeble looking specimen, it's a bare rooted DA Thomas A Becket. It was planted about 6 weeks ago and has put precious little new growth on so far and is looking rather sorry for it's self. 
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @edhelka
    Your Gabriel Oak is beautiful. Mine is flowering well but it is lighter colour than what i expected.  Now that most of my roses are flowering and if I compare Gabriel Oak, I think for colour I like Thomas a Becket more as that is deeper colour. The flower form and plant form of Gabriel Oak is better. For flower size and fragrance, I like Young Lycidas more but it needs support.
    Overall Gabriel Oak is really a winner.
    South West London
  • laurie12laurie12 Posts: 19
    Does anyone know what rose this is please? xx
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @laurie12 Might that be Nostalgia? It seems to vary with its ratio of red to white, with age?
  • laurie12laurie12 Posts: 19
    P.S. Dove, I live in Hartfield where A.A.Milne used to live and Ashdown forest and the 100 acre wood is my stomping ground!
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    newbie77 said:
    @edhelka
    Your Gabriel Oak is beautiful. Mine is flowering well but it is lighter colour than what i expected.  Now that most of my roses are flowering and if I compare Gabriel Oak, I think for colour I like Thomas a Becket more as that is deeper colour. The flower form and plant form of Gabriel Oak is better. For flower size and fragrance, I like Young Lycidas more but it needs support.
    Overall Gabriel Oak is really a winner.
    I love Young Lycidas fragrance, I almost bought it because of it. But it wouldn't be disease resistant enough here.
    I've never grown Thomas a Becket but from all the photos of it I've seen, the colour and form are a bit more uniform and less interesting. But of course, that's a matter of personal preference. The habit of TaB, I wouldn't mind, it gives opportunities for creative training or growing on an obelisk or pillar which is space-saving in small gardens. Disease resistance of TaB, I don't know, average?
    I am simply happy that I have a rose which grows well here (at least in a pot, if it is as tolerant of poor soils as they say, remains to be seen), which flowers well, which open well in rainy/wet/humid weather, which is fragrant and disease-resistant (how much remains to be seen but reports from other growers are good).
    I am curious if it proves to be good in really hot climates or if it fades in the strong sun (and if the flowers can take the sun and still last at least 3 days). How big it will grow in the American south. And similar questions. These really will show if it is a winner or not.
  • laurie12laurie12 Posts: 19
    Tack said:
    @laurie12 Might that be Nostalgia? It seems to vary with its ratio of red to white, with age? 
    Thank you @Tack , I bought it at Tesco, so not named, but their plants always grow on well and are not expensive! Nostalgia is a nice name, lets go with that ;)
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    And a critical post... Silas Marner. I really really like the fragrance, it's one of the best. The blooms are pretty.
    But I don't like how they look these days.
    They are deeply cupped. Beautiful inside. But with all the rain, there's no chance of seeing the inside and they are not pretty when drooping. The outer petals can rot slightly, nothing too bad, but it's not good when you can't see anything else.
    Inside
    Outside
    The whole plant
    It stays like this for 3 days, maybe 4 and then you lightly touch it and the whole rain-soaked thing shatters at once. I am tired of this. It's bad weather, I know, but you can see how well Gabriel Oak looks next to this.
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