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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    BELLE DE JOUR? I don’t think so!!

    Well I finally gave up on seemingly dead BdeJ/Chateau de Cheverny and dug it up. From arrival in July with botyris blight (having left the nursery 3 days earlier in perfect health according to them), to getting stem fasciation then stem canker - thanks for the diagnostics @Marlorena - every cane died off and I am left with this:


    Marlorena, would you say there is anything specific wrong with the rootstock/graft? Or has it simply never recovered from a severe root prune to jam it in the pot? Is is worth re-potting and hoping it might recover or is it dead as a dodo? 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Thanks @Katsa it doesn't sound too promising but I'll try to keep it as sheltered as possible in the bad weather and hopefully that will help.

    @nollie I saw Pure Poetry at the rose nursery a couple of weeks ago.  The fragrance was lovely but the blooms and stems very droopy so I passed it up for Proper Job instead.  I love that little ball bud of RdeR.  I'm rooting for it not to get any crud!!
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @Nollie Sorry you've had such a rotten experience with that nursery! 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Yes I think I plumped for the wrong one there @poppyfield64, should have gone for PJ instead, since my aim in getting some HTs was to have more upright blooms!

    Thanks @Omori, one occasionally gets a dud (the other three I got from there are healthy enough) but doesn’t excuse their appalling attitude over this one. Hopefully it’s an isolated problem with this particular specimen and others will have success with it.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited September 2020
    @Nollie

    ...I would give up on that.. looks dead to me, in fact when I first saw your pictures I suspected the rootstock may not have survived...  you would normally see little white shoots coming off it, but none I can see there...  

    ..perhaps try 'Champagne Moment' instead... I'm getting one...  I've just seen a video of a garden in England with one of these and it just blew me away... totally healthy too..

    @Katsa
    ...oh and welcome back.. I wondered where you had been and missing your garden somewhat...
    East Anglia, England
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 278
    @Marlorena - I've been missing you all too! And not much is happening on the gardening front. Still waiting for a shed to be built and for things to die back so i can do some moving of roses and plants around. 

    @edhelka - how's your paul transen/paul noel holding up? I'm wondering whether to replace alister stella grey as I don't really like the yellow flowers against the pergola. 

     
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Thanks @Marlorena I thought as much, actually now it’s dried off from hosing off the soil I can see the old root pruning cuts are dead and the epidermis and cambium layers dry and peeling. I have asked for an alternative bare root rose in replacement but am being ignored - will send him the root pics in a final attempt then give up.

    Champagne moment is a lovely rose though.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • sarinkasarinka Posts: 270
    edited September 2020
    @Tack that's a truly beautiful parade of pots 😍
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