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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Will do @Tack. Hasn’t seemed to have affected overall health so far, damn sawflies are doing far more damage to the foliage of my roses.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...this was 'Boufarik' [probably R de Rescht].. early August...

    ..and later...



    ..typical of the class.. but at least it was quite late in the season, but occurs much earlier on the other varieties I listed... 
    East Anglia, England
  • @Marlorena - I only had one water but full of water, as I only got round to fitting the guttering on my allotment shed in late summer and we haven’t had much rain. I managed to fill about a third of the pond with rain water and the rest was from the tap.

    I remembered you mentioning Kew Gardens and hips a while ago. Well I spotted several that seem to be developing on mine. I deadheaded today but left a few clusters on to see if they continue to. I cut open one of the ones that I deadheaded and it seemed to have small seeds developing inside.
    East Yorkshire
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    Oh. Sawflys and crud. Now I just need to discover this lovely hole that appeared overnight is a non-desirable rodent! It's about 2" diameter.
  • Thanks @Marlorena.  Your Aster Monch always looks so tidy.  My Aster is a straggly mess.  Thanks too for the info on Damask/Portland rose.  I will have to keep an eye on my Jacques Cartier

    I have that same one @Nollie but haven't used it on my roses.  I mainly put it in my hanging baskets.  All my potted roses I put rose fertilizer in the pot when planting and then liquid feed each weekend.

    @Tack I'm always so eager for the blooms that I forget the beauty of the buds.  Your Elina is very reminiscent of a Mr Whippy.  At least your potential rodent is outdoors.  We had rats in our cavity wall this summer.  They managed to get in behind the dishwasher and chew through the outlet pipe.

    Nice to see your Royal Jubilee blooming again @Mr. Vine Eye I have some buds on mine again.  Only one or two affected leaves lower down but mostly still very healthy.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Nollie What about multifloras: Is it small -> polyantha, medium -> hybrid musk, large -> multiflora rambler.
    I agree with you about hybrid teas. Early hybrid teas were hybrid perpetual x tea, old floribundas polyantha x hybrid tea. But then, obviously, floribundas and HTs were crossed and modern varieties are genetically much closer to each other (I would guess basically the same) and the class gets assigned depending on the growth habit only or whatever the breeder wants.
    I sometimes think about my 'Empereur Charles IV.'. It's classed as a floribunda but it is very upright with huge clusters. I can imagine it being a cross of one of the Lens hybrid musks and a modern HT, which would be almost like the early floribundas :) but who knows, it can be something completely different.
  • @Nollie
    @Marlorena thanks both of you for your feedback very helpful 😌

    Hi @Nollie your advice to leave the stake in, makes sense, will just do that, and adopt the cross staking method next year.  I would love to see a bloom but to be honest I'm a bit doubtful.  Will watch for buds over the next few weeks and look out for buds 🙂🌿

    Hi @Marlorena I haven't ever seen a bloom on this rose, since planting it as a bare root last November. 

    Must admit I was planning to prune it once dormancy started, would you advise against it?  Also my other consideration was relocating as wasn't planning on having such a big rose plant in that part of my front garden.  Your thinking around the type of rose could be right as I originally purchased it for £1 from Poundland.  


  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited September 2020
    @cazsophieq2019
    ...the fact you've seen no blooms since a Nov planting, suggests it may well be a once blooming rose as it needs to build up its framework before flowering.. which means if you move it in winter, do try and keep as much cane as you can.. there is no need to chop it right down, if you do that, you may never see a bloom on your rose..  

    @poppyfield64
    ..oh I've had Jacques Cartier too.. that was ok actually, I don't recall disease issues but I looked at it after a thunderstorm one day and thought ''what a xxxxxxx mess''.. and out it went...[excuse language ..]....  take a look at the leaves, you will notice the leading leaf [the terminal leaf], is much longer than the others, it's elongated forming a point... it's quite a distinguishing feature on this rose..

    @Mr. Vine Eye
    ...what's that Rudbeckia?  goldsturm or from seeds ?..
    ...all very healthy looking as usual..
    .. I hope you get some seeds from KG.. I did open one the other day but none to be seen and usually they turn black on my plant, so I'll look again later... 
    ...I've read that rainwater is best for ponds if possible... but if the pond is enormous I suppose there's no choice but to use the hose.. 
    ..oh and your Scarborough Fair just has leafy sepals.. very nice too, lovely... you might be mixing up with proliferation which is different..


    East Anglia, England
  • @Marlorena just been out with my torch and yes the lead leaf is longer and pointier.  So far it hasn't had to endure any bad weather as it's new but it is close to the greenhouse so I suspect I'll be chucking it in there when the weather turns then.  Oh and language totally excused lol
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