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  • micmargmicmarg Posts: 38


    @Tack @greenlove Photo 3 certainly looks like my mystery rose. I sent a photo to David Austin to see if they could identify it as it definitely was a DA rose but seemingly with the wrong label attached to the DA pot. Whatever it is I love it.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Tack, thanks a lot for giving long list and suggestions. I am going to search about those and see which ones can be trained on obelisk. 
    South West London
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    edited July 2020
    You are welcome. I'll help if I can if you give the details of what type of rose you like, maybe somebody here could give suggestions and maybe even a photo of a mature plant. Things like do you have a colour preference, single, semi-double or lots of petals, a preference for scent, disease resistance, repeat flowering etc and what are your garden conditions. I find looking for roses quite difficult (but still enjoyable) if I cannot see a picture of a full growing plant, which sellers seem to rarely show.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @newbie77 How big are your obelisks?
  • rock_henrock_hen Posts: 106
    I dont know how much of a bargain but picked this up for £5 today along with an agapanthus also for £5. I think it might be a baby masquerade but not sure? 
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Tack and @edhelka thank you. I think these are 6 ft or 7ft GAP garden traditional obelisks.

    Currently I have strawberry hills, Tess of D, Bathsheba, Crown Princess Marg and Teasing Georgia on similar obelisks. I dont know if they are right choice or not. I was novice and just selected based on fragrance without much thought to size and training.

    I would prefer fragrant over non fragrant ones but then I am not able to find many fragrant climbing roses. So if a rose is reliably repeat flowering and healthy I would go for it even if it doesnt have much fragrance. I like all colours. 
    South West London
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @newbie77 I would say 6-feet obelisks are too small for most climbing roses. 7-8-feet obelisks can work if they are relatively wide and solid.
    For 6 or 7-feet obelisks (is this all above ground?), and even more if you want them narrow, look for large shrub roses. The larger DAs are often good for this, the ones that are over 4 feet or roses that are listed both as a shrub or climber.
    Hybrid multifloras make good obelisk roses - either larger (4-5ft) modern hybrid musks (like Heavenly Pink and similar) or small multiflora ramblers (like Purple Skyliner). You can twist the canes around the obelisk or just let them grow through it, whatever works better for the rose.
    Some old roses are perfect obelisk/pillar roses, some hybrid perpetuals and some bourbons. Or even mosses or centifolias if you want.
    Out of the climbers, only the smallest ones are good. Kordes roses Kiss me Kate and Florentina come to mind. Or their mini climbers range - Siluetta and Tantau Starlet roses (not available in the UK but the Agel Rosen linked recently have them and Alina and Melina are fragrant).
    Out of your roses, I would say CPM, Tess and Strawberry Hill are fine, Teasing Georgia and Bathsheba too big.
    I agree it's hard to find fragrant and healthy climbers that don't grow too big.
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @newbie77 I wish I had known a lot more before I ordered mine. @edhelka is expert and I think her advice will be good to follow.
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