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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @greenlove Gorgeous roses there, I even recognise a few I think. Names would be great please, just for the fun of seeing if I got any right.  When I saw number 3 I wondered if it was a candidate for @micmarg 's mystery rose on page 308.
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @peteS I'd think I'd done a great job if my climbing roses looked like that, I'll have to up my game for my 7 new climbers!

    @Marlorena GdF looking buttery there, I am still astonished how pink those blooms get by the same evening. Aquarell is lovely, sigh,  alas her delicate disposition.

  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Tack, which ones are your 7 new climbers?  I am looking for climbing rose suggestions.

    I have totally run out of space for roses. Last year i bought 50 in one go for my new garden. Only type I can get now are the climbing ones which can be trained on obelisk, so not too big. I have 8 obelisks to use. 


    South West London
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    @Marlorena...I love Anne Folkard, I used to grow it, but it got a bit to "scrambly" for my small border; but if will grow upwards that would be a very attractive alternative to a severe prune.
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @newbie77 Memory test time. Mentally going round the garden I have Ghislaine de Feligonde, Wollerton Old Hall, Bathsheba, The Generous Gardener, Claire Austin, Rambling Rosie, Strawberry Hill, Blush Noisette, Teasing Georgia (TGG and CA are from last year). Also I am told my Rhapsody in Blue and Sandringham can be trained as climbers and they are both on a railing where I will do that if they want to.

    As to which can be trained on obelisks I am no expert, mine are all on trellis or fences with wires and I relied too much on the sellers' websites in my choosing. At a guess, of mine I'd think Strawberry Hill and Blush Noisette would do best. I'm thinking for an obelisk you'd need roses with flexible canes for wrapping around and weaving in and out  to avoid the canes going straight up and only flowering at the top. I gather from the experts on here that the websites do not always give great advice on that. I think I'd ask on here if you have your eye on a specific rose and give the info on your obelisk height and location etc for great advice.

  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    @Omori...I'm loving Corvedale (the open pink one) is it rain resistant and non floppy? Love 'em all actually, so I have to ask...are they rain resistant.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    Thank you @peteS. Claire Marshall is a very good little floribunda, strongly scented and good resistance to rain/disease. Corvedale (DA) is a big rose and has taken some time to develop a good shape. Earlier this year it was flopped to the ground completely, but it sent up strong basals and is very upright now. The pollinators love it. Definitely a rose that requires some patience to grow into a good form. The flowers are held upright. Rain and disease resistance is fine. Alexander, a tall narrow hybrid tea, very good disease resistance, rain resistance is fine to me, but only a light smell. White Fox, similar to Claire Marshall, not as resistant to rain, but very strong lovely scent, and disease resistance. Hope that helps and that your experience will be good if you decide to try any of these. I found CM and WF to be less than overwhelming in their first year but really come into their own in subsequent years, those are both small roses that could fit in anywhere. Sometimes hard to necessarily tell what a rose will be like based on the first year (or even second) as some have been lacklustre initially but really impress me as they develop. 
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @peteS Honestly, I don't see it as untidy. If you google examples of climbing roses trained by professionals or rosarians who specialize in training, you can see crossing canes are quite common and it's also common to tie the canes together - not only rose to the support but also rose to the rose.
    If you don't like that the lower canes can be seen in summer (aren't clothed in foliage), just grow something in front of it or something climbing up on it.
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