@edhelkaTuincentrum Lottum. They have some lovely roses, so much so that I have a list as long as my arm. However, I have emailed them about which payment methods they accept but no luck with a reply. Have you had any problems.
@micearguers The process with them is like this: You send the order via the website, they confirm it. Then they send an invoice in autumn when they are preparing the order. The invoice is payable by a bank transfer or paypal (paypal with additional fees). This is one of the reasons why they can have their roses so cheap... payment processing is not in the price. You also lose some money on the currency difference (your bank or paypal never gives you a good exchange rate). It all adds but it still isn't bad. Last year, I ordered 7 roses, the invoice was for 54 euro including shipping, 56 euro with the paypal fees.
Another reason why they are so cheap is low VAT tax on plants. I think they are in the lowest tax rate there probably meant for vegetables and GYO but roses fit in too I like seeing roses as a necessity next to bread or childcare supplies
BTW slight OT @Mr. Vine Eye Have you had the chance to get the alchemilla in the end? I've just noticed it is available from the Secret Gardening Club for £1.99. Maybe late for you but maybe interesting for someone else.
I've been drooling over the Agel-Rosen website for ages! ever since @Marlorena pointed me in their direction to buy Jardin des Tuileries. Unfortunately it's not in stock and I've completely blown my budget for roses this year. However, I may cave in and get Kaffe Fassett later in the year. And maybe a couple more ...
I would like your expert opinion on a couple of my roses. i have a feeling they are starting to experience blackspot or something else. I'm not going to spray them, but would like to know in case it's something else that can be treated through feeding/watering/pampering.
A potted English Miss. I had to pot it as we're getting the shed replaced.
Raymond Blanc.
ghislaine de feligonde. I don't really know what I'm doing with ramblers, so any advice on pruning, growing etc would be gratefully received!
There's two roses that definitely have BS and were originally in pots. I've planted them out and they're growing like crazy and seem much happier. While they still have BS they don't seem as badly affected by it this year. One is a Flower Carpet in Pink and the other is a Laura Ford patio climber. Neither particularly amaze me, so I'm considered shovel pruning them in the winter. Any tips for preventing BS affecting other roses that I may plant there? They've only been in the ground for about 6 months, so I don't have to worry about rose replant disease.
@edhelka - I've ordered Chippendale from TCL as a bare root. Mainly cos of the rain resistance. I'm interested to see how it turns out!
@Ffoxglove thank you. Took a while for the buds to open but was worth the wait.
Loving the scent on my Rugosa Hansa that opened today.
I also have a couple of questions. Firstly where on this TCL website is the filter for rain resistance. I can't seem to find it anywhere on there unless I'm on the wrong website.
And is it true that yellow and orange roses are more prone to getting blackspot. I'm not sure if I read this somewhere or dreamt it.
...just taking your pictures one at a time.. your English Miss, just minor fungus issue there.. as the leading leaf has, what, about 30-40% coverage, I would just take that off, but the others I would leave...
...your Raymond Blanc,.. I wouldn't worry about that, and just leave as it is for now..
...Anyone who doesn't spray has to adapt and develop a tolerance to a certain amount of foliage issues, so I try to leave on as much leafage as possible, for as long as possible.. but once a certain threshold is reached, it comes off... that's my rough guide.. if I have to totally defoliate a rose then it may not remain with me for long..
..black spot and other fungus diseases will come back every year.. if we don't spray, then the best course of action, besides good cultivation, is to weed out the wheat from the chaff... over time you will find you keep the most disease resistant roses - these days more roses are exceptionally resistant and some develop it with age, so do not discard too prematurely - and remove the worst offenders... this is how you build up a rose garden to your satisfaction, with minimal disease pressures.. it does mean trial and error though.. and we all have different levels of tolerance.. if I'm honest, what you have shown there on your 2 roses, I personally would barely notice, apart from that first leaf..
..I'll just answer your G de F query in a follow on post..
..regards pruning your G de F... I do mine twice a year but one of these, the summer one, can be just deadheading only, to keep it easy and simple.
So, just deadhead your rose, just snip off the spent flowers as they go brown and hang around a bit otherwise..
..After the main flush of blooming is over, about late June, it's important to deadhead as much of your rose as possible, even when the plant is quite large.. .don't worry about pruning, or where you cut, you can even use a grass shears,... but if you want good rebloom, it's worth doing. The rose will still have some flowers on it, so avoid those, but deadhead as much as you can .. if you miss some, it doesn't matter too much.. it's really very easy this way, and doesn't take much time..
I'm a bit more thorough, and do go to the trouble of pruning it at the same time, but you needn't worry about that yourself... snipping off the old flowers is all you need do..
..in the winter, about mid February, I prune this rose quite hard.. this doesn't mean cutting it down to the ground, it means having established a woody framework of canes which you leave in place, you should prune back the side shoots - the laterals, removing any dead bits of wood and leaving your rose with shorter, compact laterals coming off the main branches.. I leave some quite long to suit, and others I cut short.. you can shorten the main framework of canes if you wish at this time.. ...if you don't do any of this, over time, you rose will become a large tangled mess, so it's worth doing one winters day.. it's really the work of half an hour or so for me, on my large plant.. ..mid March.. this was pruned mid February.. you can see I've left some laterals going upwards quite tall, as I want about 3 foot extension above the fence line.. others I have cut quite short, like stubby growth, all shooting out at this point.. you can see the main framework tied down and trained across where possible.. ignore the black metal trellis, that's not meant to be there.. if you don't have trellis, then some wires will be needed..
..what this rose is very good at doing is shooting from its dormant buds... all roses have 3 dormant buds on a node.. usually, the middle one breaks and grows into a stem with flowers... sometimes 2 or all 3 will break together.. when the single flowering stem is cut back hard, and it dies off like below, to a short woody stub, G de F will grow from those dormant axillary buds either side, if they didn't break before, and produce more flowers that way too.. so don't worry if you cut a lateral shoot right back, and worry you might have killed it or something.. roses have reserves.. it's survival..
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I would like your expert opinion on a couple of my roses. i have a feeling they are starting to experience blackspot or something else. I'm not going to spray them, but would like to know in case it's something else that can be treated through feeding/watering/pampering.
A potted English Miss. I had to pot it as we're getting the shed replaced.
Raymond Blanc.
ghislaine de feligonde. I don't really know what I'm doing with ramblers, so any advice on pruning, growing etc would be gratefully received!
There's two roses that definitely have BS and were originally in pots. I've planted them out and they're growing like crazy and seem much happier. While they still have BS they don't seem as badly affected by it this year. One is a Flower Carpet in Pink and the other is a Laura Ford patio climber. Neither particularly amaze me, so I'm considered shovel pruning them in the winter. Any tips for preventing BS affecting other roses that I may plant there? They've only been in the ground for about 6 months, so I don't have to worry about rose replant disease.
@edhelka - I've ordered Chippendale from TCL as a bare root. Mainly cos of the rain resistance. I'm interested to see how it turns out!
Loving the scent on my Rugosa Hansa that opened today.
I also have a couple of questions. Firstly where on this TCL website is the filter for rain resistance. I can't seem to find it anywhere on there unless I'm on the wrong website.
And is it true that yellow and orange roses are more prone to getting blackspot. I'm not sure if I read this somewhere or dreamt it.
..black spot and other fungus diseases will come back every year.. if we don't spray, then the best course of action, besides good cultivation, is to weed out the wheat from the chaff... over time you will find you keep the most disease resistant roses - these days more roses are exceptionally resistant and some develop it with age, so do not discard too prematurely - and remove the worst offenders... this is how you build up a rose garden to your satisfaction, with minimal disease pressures.. it does mean trial and error though.. and we all have different levels of tolerance.. if I'm honest, what you have shown there on your 2 roses, I personally would barely notice, apart from that first leaf..
..I'll just answer your G de F query in a follow on post..
So, just deadhead your rose, just snip off the spent flowers as they go brown and hang around a bit otherwise..
..After the main flush of blooming is over, about late June, it's important to deadhead as much of your rose as possible, even when the plant is quite large.. .don't worry about pruning, or where you cut, you can even use a grass shears,... but if you want good rebloom, it's worth doing. The rose will still have some flowers on it, so avoid those, but deadhead as much as you can .. if you miss some, it doesn't matter too much.. it's really very easy this way, and doesn't take much time..
I'm a bit more thorough, and do go to the trouble of pruning it at the same time, but you needn't worry about that yourself... snipping off the old flowers is all you need do..
...if you don't do any of this, over time, you rose will become a large tangled mess, so it's worth doing one winters day.. it's really the work of half an hour or so for me, on my large plant..
..mid March.. this was pruned mid February.. you can see I've left some laterals going upwards quite tall, as I want about 3 foot extension above the fence line.. others I have cut quite short, like stubby growth, all shooting out at this point.. you can see the main framework tied down and trained across where possible.. ignore the black metal trellis, that's not meant to be there.. if you don't have trellis, then some wires will be needed..
..what this rose is very good at doing is shooting from its dormant buds... all roses have 3 dormant buds on a node.. usually, the middle one breaks and grows into a stem with flowers... sometimes 2 or all 3 will break together.. when the single flowering stem is cut back hard, and it dies off like below, to a short woody stub, G de F will grow from those dormant axillary buds either side, if they didn't break before, and produce more flowers that way too.. so don't worry if you cut a lateral shoot right back, and worry you might have killed it or something.. roses have reserves.. it's survival..