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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited 4 January
    It's as well to remember that having Covid isn't just like "having a cold" - hey ho and off we go. There can be long term effects, so it does pay to be careful. 

    My neighbour, a doctor, has had Covid five times and is not allowed to take time off to rest fully as it counts against her work record. I hate to think what this kind of life is doing to front line staff in public realms - teachers, workers in med settings, public transport etc. They are battling on so many fronts.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    edited 4 January
    20 years ago a lot of the science described in this paper was unknown. The concept of microembolism in many diseases is relatively new.
    The view in this paper is not shared widely in the research community where continued inflammation is thought to be much more likely
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    It's a virus @Fire and it has long been accepted that virus infections can have long lasting adverse effects on our systems tho many medics deny that.   Glandular fever, influenza, Covid - can all be similarly persistent and in devious ways.

    I had glandular fever in my late 20s.  It knocked me out and I was off sick for 6 months, only diagnosed after a blood test 5 months down the line.  It took me a good year to get back to normal fitness and I was told the up side was I wouldn't get it again.

    I have an "MOT" every 2 years  - blood test and pressure, heart and lung function - so how come GF has shown up several times in the last 40 years? 

    There's a lot of research not been done on virus infections.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    My uncle was exempt for serving in the war because of glandular fever.  Leaves a weak heart.  They’ve always knew the effects. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Lyn said:
    My uncle was exempt for serving in the war because of glandular fever.  Leaves a weak heart.  They’ve always knew the effects. 
    They've always known some of them ... not all of them ... what about the connection between Glandular Fever and Hodgkin Lymphoma ... how many folk are aware that Glandular Fever can cause cancer?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I think a lot of things can trigger cancer,  I did read, don’t know if it was true,  that we are all born with cancer, it just needs something to trigger it? 
      
    I’ve known people with Hodgkins who never had GF. 

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited 4 January
     what about the connection between Glandular Fever and Hodgkin Lymphoma ... how many folk are aware that Glandular Fever can cause cancer?

    I don't think it's a direct case of GF "causing cancer". It's not as straight forward as that.


    40 out of 100 cases (40%) of Hodgkin lymphoma in the UK are related to EBV infection. 





  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I don’t know how to couch this without upsetting some people, but I would again caution about learning medicine from the Press. Most medical articles are at best biased, and at worst dangerously wrong.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited 4 January
    Please note that I said GF ‘can cause cancer…’ not that it will … 

    The NHS site says 

    “The exact cause of Hodgkin lymphoma is unknown. However, your risk of developing the condition is increased if:
    • you have a medical condition that weakens your immune system
    • you take immunosuppressant medicine
    • you've previously been exposed to a common virus called the Epstein-Barr virus, which causes glandular fever

    You also have an increased risk of developing Hodgkin lymphoma if a first-degree relative (parent, sibling or child) has had the condition.”

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hodgkin-lymphoma/ 

    My niece developed Hodgkin Lymphoma shortly after being ill
    with GF in her first year at Uni … she was told at Addenbrookes that the GF was likely to have been the cause. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I was pleased to read this,  long may it continue.

    Cases in Plymouth

    A confirmed case is someone who has tested positive for coronavirus.

    Between 3 December 2023 and 9 December 2023, 0 - 2 people had a confirmed positive test result. This shows a decrease of 999999.0% compared to the previous 7 days.

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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