Thanks @punkdoc . I have a trip to London for work this week so I can't avoid public transport but I'll be extra-careful. I never stopped wearing a mask in busy indoor places in any case, but I've noticed that people seem to think that's odd. Example - I was sitting in the GP's waiting room last week (mask on, there was a notice up on the door, please wear a mask). After about 10 minutes (they were running late) the receptionist (mask-less) came over to me and said "you don't need to keep the mask on if you don't want to". The mind boggles. The GP when I saw her was wearing a mask and didn't comment that I was too.
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And maybe it never will....or perhaps it may? Who knows? What I'm convinced will happen though if we return to any form of restriction is the increase in undiagnosed or late diagnosed cancers along with other life threatening illnesses or long term conditions. Primarily because of a wholly disproportionate allocation of resources to a respiratory disease with an extremely small mortally rate. Most of which occur (if what I've read is correct) in the elderly, those with long term health conditions and the obese. From an economic standpoint lockdowns have brought this country to its knees. People's careers and livelihoods have been destroyed..particularly travel and hospitality including the supply companies associated with them. There comes a point when living solely to avoid the still small chance of dying from Covid is completely counter productive. Wear a mask it you must or avoid social situations if that makes you feel safer but more lockdowns and restrictions will create a hole from which the UK will never get out of.
@mac12, my granny smoked a 100 fags a day, lived till she was 100, makes as much sense as what you say. Sadly one of the problems with the modern world, is that no one respects experts any more, but we still have to around when you need us.
@Chris-P-Bacon, I don't think any doctor wants to reduce workload in hospitals, but if we do your cancer surgery when you have COVID, you have a lower chance of surviving it, so surely decreasing COVID cases is a good idea. I do agree with you that we will never totally get rid of it.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I agree that lockdowns are bad for the economy, but to me mask-wearing and good hand hygiene are simple no-brainers, as well as staying at home if you're coughing and sniffling (admittedly that one's difficult for people who can't work at home and don't get paid if they're off). We all want to get on with our lives, but no-one wants to get ill, even if it's just a cold or cold-like symptoms.
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And maybe it never will....or perhaps it may? Who knows? What I'm convinced will happen though if we return to any form of restriction is the increase in undiagnosed or late diagnosed cancers along with other life threatening illnesses or long term conditions. Primarily because of a wholly disproportionate allocation of resources to a respiratory disease with an extremely small mortally rate. Most of which occur (if what I've read is correct) in the elderly, those with long term health conditions and the obese. ...
So, when the hospitals are full up with those patients what are we going to do ... tell the folk with other respiratory and heart problems that they'll have to wait as can't be treated because the wards are full?....... Or are we going to tell the folk who are seriously ill with Covid 'Sorry, you'll have to stay at home and die ... we can't fill the hospitals up with the likes of you ... other people are more important'?
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Down with the elderly. Down with that sort of thing.
And as for the disabled ... those with genetic health conditions and associated disabilities and that sort of thing ... there was someone who came up with a scheme to do away with all of them ...... we fought a war against him ........ didn't we? At least, our elderly folk did ...
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Punkdoc you keep telling us your an expert but won't say what in but you have time to be able to post on here
He doesn't need to. Most of us already know.
I don't get it, really. It's fine to read someone saying 'I think you should be careful' and think 'nah, not doing that'. But why spend so much time trying to tell everyone else what to think? We're all adults, we'll make our own minds up where the balance of risk lies for each of us. I will listen to the maximum number of voices I can and then form a view on what I believe - that's true as much for Covid as it is for when to sow calabrese. I, along with many other regulars here, value Punkdoc's insight on this. As he has already told you, he is privy to information that most health practitioners (never mind the general public) don't see and it's kind of him to share what he can. If you want to disregard it, carry on. What possible point is there to telling me what I should do about it?
You're entitled to your opinion, you've told us what that is. Enough
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What I'm convinced will happen though if we return to any form of restriction is the increase in undiagnosed or late diagnosed cancers along with other life threatening illnesses or long term conditions. Primarily because of a wholly disproportionate allocation of resources to a respiratory disease with an extremely small mortally rate. Most of which occur (if what I've read is correct) in the elderly, those with long term health conditions and the obese.
From an economic standpoint lockdowns have brought this country to its knees. People's careers and livelihoods have been destroyed..particularly travel and hospitality including the supply companies associated with them.
There comes a point when living solely to avoid the still small chance of dying from Covid is completely counter productive.
Wear a mask it you must or avoid social situations if that makes you feel safer but more lockdowns and restrictions will create a hole from which the UK will never get out of.
Sadly one of the problems with the modern world, is that no one respects experts any more, but we still have to around when you need us.
@Chris-P-Bacon, I don't think any doctor wants to reduce workload in hospitals, but if we do your cancer surgery when you have COVID, you have a lower chance of surviving it, so surely decreasing COVID cases is a good idea.
I do agree with you that we will never totally get rid of it.
When you don't even know who's in the team
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
At least, our elderly folk did ...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I don't get it, really. It's fine to read someone saying 'I think you should be careful' and think 'nah, not doing that'. But why spend so much time trying to tell everyone else what to think? We're all adults, we'll make our own minds up where the balance of risk lies for each of us. I will listen to the maximum number of voices I can and then form a view on what I believe - that's true as much for Covid as it is for when to sow calabrese.
I, along with many other regulars here, value Punkdoc's insight on this. As he has already told you, he is privy to information that most health practitioners (never mind the general public) don't see and it's kind of him to share what he can. If you want to disregard it, carry on. What possible point is there to telling me what I should do about it?
You're entitled to your opinion, you've told us what that is. Enough
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