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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    If they cancelled another Christmas the people would be very annoyed,  probably have hundreds gathering in protest.
    We’re told to be careful,  yea right.  That’ll  work. 
    Its been good for the economy,  people have gone OTT this year,  think what would happen if they said no! 

    I’m just hoping it’s only like flu as some are saying,  but the last time I had flu I was left with a very depleted immune system and a debilitating eye complaint.
    There’ll be 10 of us in a 12.5’ square room!   So now the plan will be to open up another room.   The homeless lodger will have to go somewhere else and I will need to clean top to bottom in the rooms he’s used. 

    We live very quietly here, never go out, never see anyone,  the thought of all those people here fills me with dread. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Given the very low esteem afforded to the government at present I tend to think they were right in not trying to be too emphatic with Covid regulations. Out of bloody mindedness I fear many folk would just do the opposite of what the government says.

    I suspect it might have been deliberately engineered that Chris Whitty and not Boris took the lead in advising us to be circumspect over gatherings. From what I have read about wholesale cancellations of pub and restaurant bookings this approach seems to be partially effective. From a personal viewpoint it is certainly true: we have postponed three seasonal dinner party invitations and the two big village Christmas parties have been cancelled.
    Rutland, England
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited December 2021
    BenCotto said:
    Given the very low esteem afforded to the government at present I tend to think they were right in not trying to be too emphatic with Covid regulations. Out of bloody mindedness I fear many folk would just do the opposite of what the government says.

    I suspect it might have been deliberately engineered that Chris Whitty and not Boris took the lead in advising us to be circumspect over gatherings….

    Of course it was … but being cynical I don’t think it’s for the reason you give …. if it’s not a government instruction then the government can’t be expected to help out when businesses start going to the wall … it’s just market forces, right? 
     🙄 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    I think you’re spot on @Dovefromabove.  Will be interested to see whether the Welsh and Scottish governments have to provide support …..and where that money will come from.
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    steveTu said:
    I really don't follow the Welsh announcement that they'll introduce more restrictions from Boxing Day. Won't the damage have largely been done by then? 
    I would guess that pubs are a Christmas problem, night clubs are New Year's Eve super-spreaders, so possibly the answer is 'no' to that
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    SO [ don't you hate a sentence that starts with so ], having cancelled our Christmas with BIL [ multiple 20 somethings due to be there, one a teacher etc etc ], with Moira still in Scotland, I suppose I need to try and organise some sort of Christmas feast for the 2 of us
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219

    steveTu said:
    I really don't follow the Welsh announcement that they'll introduce more restrictions from Boxing Day. Won't the damage have largely been done by then? 
    I would guess that pubs are a Christmas problem, night clubs are New Year's Eve super-spreaders, so possibly the answer is 'no' to that

    The data will show though won't it. Last year, with whatever tiering/travel/social gathering restrictions in place, the cases peaked just after Christmas (29th at 81k) and then a smaller peak after New Year (76k on 4th) - with deaths peaking towards the last week or so of Jan (1350 on 19th). I'd guess with the mixing that's occurring, that the peaks won't be so pronounced as there will be a steady increase caused throughout the tail end of Dec and into Jan.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Just listened (on R4) to Boris answering questions from a Sky reporter. Obviously he wants to keep on message about 'getting it done' and the vaccine rollout. There's so much I don't understand. What is the point in having the fastest rollout of vaccines e-v-e-r, if we have the 4th highest number of confirmed cases and in way of deaths, within comparable populations, we're also near the top? Why isn't anyone asking those questions of the man? It was like when, at the early covid briefings, they had to roll out the number of pieces of PPE they had shipped at every opportunity, but not once do I recall that ever being qualified by how many pieces of the different type were required. 'We shipped blah million bits of PPE' BIG numbers, but not so great when you see it as '..the NHS needs blahx2 millions gowns. blahx8 million gloves,....' whatever. But the gov never seemed to be asked that question.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Any chance of getting your hands on a pheasant @punkdoc? ... or a brace of partridge ... or ... I picked up a dressed mallard for £4 this morning.

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    edited December 2021
    I agree Dove. Wheeling out Chris Whitty appeals to those with a sense of doing the right thing and parties and outings have been cancelled accordingly.  If it was a member of the govt. the hospitality industry could legitimately ask for compensation.  As it is they will suffer financially from those of us doing the right thing not spending our money with them (much as we would like to), but with no help from govt.
    And then there's the Boris factor - who can take anything that man says seriously?
    And the suggestion of a brace of partridge @punkdoc is a good one - a very pleasant tasting bird, easy to cook and just about enough meat for 2. 
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
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