Yep - that's the absurdity isn't it? I had 'advice' from the app to isolate - but I don't have to as it is just advisory. But then, if I now ignore the 'advice', why on earth did I go down and try to do the right thing by being tested in the first place? Plus wouldn't you think that a testing centre would ensure that you could not possibly be within the app's bluetooth distance while you were queueing for an hour? Is it me? But to be honest, I can't categorically say it was the queue that caused the ping (as I can't get that data) - but it seems odds on to me, given the timing, that the person behind me in the queue - so further away from my son - tested positive. I test Wed's, the person behind tests Wed. I enter my results into the app Thurs morning, the person behind enters theirs Thurs afternoon and I get pinged - that seems most likely to me. And having a queue that doubles back on itself when distancing is required does not seem toooooooooooo sensible does it?
Don't even get me started on how the app wasn't used at the walk-in test anyway (well, not in our case which was a non-booked, wal in off the street, type test).
"So technically, legally, no reason to keep S [who had tested neg.] indoors for another week of his holidays. Nothing to stop me sending him over to see his immunosuppressed grandfather. No reason at all for him to miss out on seeing his friends or doing any of the fun stuff we had planned. No reason for me to have to feel guilty about yet another chunk of carers leave, no reason for me not to see my lovely boyfriend, no reason for me to cancel my cleaner, no reason to rack my brains for five more days worth of stuff to do that doesn’t involve eight hours on an iPad...
I suppose this is the personal responsibility they keep telling us about."
This is totally the govt. ducking out of any kind of responsibility. We see cases rising (like a yeasted mattress perhaps to use a Johnson metaphor) all around us and it is we, the responsible ones who agonise over the best way to behave. Knowing even so that we are in the minority.
..and what's barking mad is that the 'responsible' people who do adhere to the rules still, are probably less likely to be the ones who would spread the virus anyway. The ones who don't care won't have the app anyway - but may then fall foul of true 'test and trace' and be obliged to isolate. But who enforces that - 600,000 advisory pings - how many also contacted via test and trace? And if I'm right in my case and the testing centre is/was a vector, then what chance anyway?
I don't have the app so I can't be 'pinged' (phone too old!). It really does seem to be more trouble than it's worth to have it. I have never had a test,I am double jabbed as are my whole family,I have given my contact details in writing when I go to a cafe or am asked for them. I will continue to take care in regards to Hands-Face-Space but other than that I will just go about as normally as possible. We sometimes have to stop worrying about every single little detail and just get on with things. In town today everyone was being sensible and not being reckless with anyone's well being. Take care but live your life as best you can!
“Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
If it's off-off then it's not receiving signal AFAIK. But if it's in 'idle' mode and you have the app and bluetooth on, then the phone (app) is constantly scanning and will detect possible proximity/time combinations. Once a positive is detected I assume some central DB is marked with your number as being in advised isolation, so if you don't pick up the message because you had subsequently turn your phone off-off after it detected the positive, the incident is - again AFAIK - still recorded.
Given with me, I typically only used my mobile for emergency contact (my landline is my preferred contact point as I really don't want to be phoned when I'm out walking or in the supermarket or...) then it's with me when I go out and on and therefore scanning. I could delete the app or simply not take the phone with me, but that just seems wrong to me.
Have I got this right? Shopworkers don't have to isolate. Shop customers don't have to wear a mask.
Yes! Basically you have an app (that you don't have to have) telling you to do something that you don't have to do. Why so many still have the app is beyond me!
“Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
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As I understand it the first is mandatory but the second advisory."So technically, legally, no reason to keep S [who had tested neg.] indoors for another week of his holidays. Nothing to stop me sending him over to see his immunosuppressed grandfather. No reason at all for him to miss out on seeing his friends or doing any of the fun stuff we had planned. No reason for me to have to feel guilty about yet another chunk of carers leave, no reason for me not to see my lovely boyfriend, no reason for me to cancel my cleaner, no reason to rack my brains for five more days worth of stuff to do that doesn’t involve eight hours on an iPad...
This is totally the govt. ducking out of any kind of responsibility. We see cases rising (like a yeasted mattress perhaps to use a Johnson metaphor) all around us and it is we, the responsible ones who agonise over the best way to behave. Knowing even so that we are in the minority.
It really does seem to be more trouble than it's worth to have it.
I have never had a test,I am double jabbed as are my whole family,I have given my contact details in writing when I go to a cafe or am asked for them.
I will continue to take care in regards to Hands-Face-Space but other than that I will just go about as normally as possible.
We sometimes have to stop worrying about every single little detail and just get on with things.
In town today everyone was being sensible and not being reckless with anyone's well being.
Take care but live your life as best you can!
Shopworkers don't have to isolate.
Shop customers don't have to wear a mask.
Basically you have an app (that you don't have to have) telling you to do something that you don't have to do.
Why so many still have the app is beyond me!