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  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291
    I have read through the ‘rules’, it’s not going to benefit that many people. Also, it’s only England and if you are shielding, then you can’t do it either. 
    Dont forget that even if you can start seeing people, the virus (and other contagious illnesses) hasn’t gone away, this is simply to give us a sweetener and minimise contacts. 
    My garden and I live in South Wales. 
  • ChivetalkingChivetalking Posts: 2,296
    Can I check this scenario just to clarify my understanding of these latest guidelines,
    Myself, Husband and son (18) in our bubble, can go to my mums (87) single bubble even though she is in a vulnerable group due to her age? This would then mean neither my brother or sister could do the same as they live independently in their own bubbles with partners. It would also mean we are unable to visit my husbands father who is in a single bubble, unless meeting outdoors and remain socially distanced?
    Have I understood it correctly? 
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    edited June 2020
    What if there's more than one set of grandchildren, family breakdown?
  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    edited June 2020
    Can I check this scenario just to clarify my understanding of these latest guidelines,
    Myself, Husband and son (18) in our bubble, can go to my mums (87) single bubble even though she is in a vulnerable group due to her age? This would then mean neither my brother or sister could do the same as they live independently in their own bubbles with partners. It would also mean we are unable to visit my husbands father who is in a single bubble, unless meeting outdoors and remain socially distanced?
    Have I understood it correctly? 
    Yes that is correct.
    Remember these new guidelines are primarily for single households that have been isolating to give them some social interaction after weeks on their own.
    So when choosing who to be in your bubble you need to choose wisely.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    What if there's more than one set of grandchildren, family breakdown?
    You can only choose one set of grandchilden at the moment for your bubble,so choose wisely.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited June 2020
    That’s about it ... it isn’t hard to understand if you keep in mind the premise that it’s being done to support people who are finding it difficult being totally alone

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/amp/53004674

    Families will have to discuss and agree which of them are best suited to form a ‘support bubble’ with an elderly parent. 



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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    You've probably read this anyway...the rule states (from https://www.gov.uk/guidance/meeting-people-from-outside-your-household):

    The government recognises how difficult it has been for people to be cut off from their family and friends in recent months. This has been necessary to help us all stay alert, control the virus and save lives. This guidance explains how you can now see people you do not live with, while protecting yourself and others from coronavirus.

    In England, there are 2 ways that you can do this:

    • meeting outdoors in a group of up to 6 people with those you do not live with, whilst observing social distancing guidelines and keeping at least 2 metres apart
    • from 13 June, single adult households – in other words adults who live alone or with dependent children only – can form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each others’ homes, including overnight, without needing to stay 2 metres apart. We are making this change to support the loneliest and most isolated. It is a targeted intervention to provide extra support to some of those most impacted by the most difficult effects of the current social restrictions, while ensuring we continue to keep the rate of transmission down

    You must not:

    • meet other people indoors – including in their home or your home – unless you are in a support bubble (from 13 June), or for other limited circumstances listed in law
    • meet outdoors in a group of more than 6 with people who are not in your household or (where applicable) support bubble, or for other limited circumstances listed in law
    • form a support bubble with another household if neither you nor they are in a single adult household
    • stay overnight in another household that is not in your support bubble, unless it is for the limited set of circumstances outlined in law
    So a 'bubblet' can only form one bubble and a bubble is composed of two 'bubblets' - once formed, that is it. You cannot become a 'bubblet' of another bubble. The 'rule' above, appears to imply that it applies to all age groups, including  vulnerable groups. So I would come to the same conclusion that you have as to what you can do in your circumstances.


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  • ChivetalkingChivetalking Posts: 2,296
    Thank you that has confirmed what I thought, time for discussion with the family. 
  • FlyDragonFlyDragon Posts: 834
    AuntyRach said:
    I have read through the ‘rules’, it’s not going to benefit that many people. Also, it’s only England and if you are shielding, then you can’t do it either. 
    Dont forget that even if you can start seeing people, the virus (and other contagious illnesses) hasn’t gone away, this is simply to give us a sweetener and minimise contacts. 
    It’s a huge benefit for people like my 84 year old visually impaired grandma who has only left her house once since the 8th March.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I can understand the intention but can't see it working well. A couple who each have an elderly parent living alone can only bubble with one of the parents, even if both are equally lonely and in need of support, and neither has another child. It makes no difference to me, my parents are a couple and I'm in a couple so I still can't visit them in their house.
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