@JoeX please explain to me how closing the pubs at 10pm ... makes sense?
The later pubs are open, the drunker they get and the less they adhere to social distancing. This encourages the spread of CV19.
There is no indication that *all* of these people will go home together and continue drinking, thus it is an effective control.
People not meeting in houses reduces breaches of social distancing measures. This reduces the spread of CV19.
Given that all the people in the pub have probably already been breaching the rules to some extent it could be argued that closing the pubs at normal times would mean that the people would probably go straight home (to bed!) instead of stopping at 10pm and then more drinking and more mixing elsewhere.
“Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
Interesting but I think naive to assume that people cannot get very drunk before 10pm,all the “pub” people I know are starting earlier and drinking more heavily and many are going back to impromptu parties.
If I meet a friend at the shopping centre I won’t be keeping 2 metres apart.
I know many older people who are being extremely isolated and distressed by the rules and as others have said, is the cure worse than the disease as the cure isn’t working, cases are up every day?
@JoeX please explain to me how closing the pubs at 10pm ... makes sense?
The later pubs are open, the drunker they get and the less they adhere to social distancing. This encourages the spread of CV19.
There is no indication that *all* of these people will go home together and continue drinking, thus it is an effective control.
People not meeting in houses reduces breaches of social distancing measures. This reduces the spread of CV19.
Given that all the people in the pub have probably already been breaching the rules to some extent it could be argued that closing the pubs at normal times would mean that the people would probably go straight home (to bed!) instead of stopping at 10pm and then more drinking and more mixing elsewhere.
But this is pure conjecture.
We can always imagine scenarios where a control isnt effective, we need to understand that it can still be effective across the population and the majority of reality.
I think a quick trip around the local town centre after 10pm will confirm that many people are not going home. I live opposite a pub and people are stood outside until nearly midnight. Even the rain doesn’t stop them!
@JoeX please explain to me how closing the pubs at 10pm ... makes sense?
The later pubs are open, the drunker they get and the less they adhere to social distancing. This encourages the spread of CV19.
There is no indication that *all* of these people will go home together and continue drinking, thus it is an effective control.
People not meeting in houses reduces breaches of social distancing measures. This reduces the spread of CV19.
Given that all the people in the pub have probably already been breaching the rules to some extent it could be argued that closing the pubs at normal times would mean that the people would probably go straight home (to bed!) instead of stopping at 10pm and then more drinking and more mixing elsewhere.
But this is pure conjecture.
We can always imagine scenarios where a control isnt effective, we need to understand that it can still be effective across the population and the majority of reality.
But is it not also conjecture that people will stop drinking at 10pm and just go home.
“Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
I think a quick trip around the local town centre after 10pm will confirm that many people are not going home. I live opposite a pub and people are stood outside until nearly midnight. Even the rain doesn’t stop them!
Enforcing the rules is another matter But again, across the country we should see a significant number of pubs and people obeying the rules.
In the meantime the hospitality industry is struggling, jobs are disappearing and businesses are failing.
Cineworld cinemas are now considering closing altogether with a loss of 5,500 jobs. That means here on the Isle of Wight we will have only one cinema left (Cineworld has 11 screens) and the future of that one is doubtful. Then there is the Pizza Express and which is right next door to Cineworld which will also have a lack of customers. The cure does seem worse than the disease.
“Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
@JoeX please explain to me how closing the pubs at 10pm so that everyone goes back to one persons house to continue drinking makes sense?
Why is it better for me to meet a friend in a public place than in their own home?
I honestly would love to know the reasons behind these rules.
The fresh air is a factor in minimising being immersed in droplets. A change of air, plus possibly U.V. light will help in reducing the viral load. Meeting in a public indoors is daft, agree.
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/01/male-suicide-rate-england-wales-covid-19people I know are starting earlier and drinking more heavily and many are going back to impromptu parties.
We can always imagine scenarios where a control isnt effective, we need to understand that it can still be effective across the population and the majority of reality.
That means here on the Isle of Wight we will have only one cinema left (Cineworld has 11 screens) and the future of that one is doubtful.
Then there is the Pizza Express and which is right next door to Cineworld which will also have a lack of customers.
The cure does seem worse than the disease.