Forum homeâ€ș The potting shed
This Forum will close on Wednesday 27 March, 2024. Please refer to the announcement on the Discussions page for further detail.

Curmudgeons' Corner 6 - Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we diet đŸ”

1495052545595

Posts

  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I said to my old sis nearly three years back that I thought full autonomous driverless cars would be on the road  and common within 10 years. So I would still go for that - so by 2025 you'll see companies like Uber taking up the mantle (https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18276541/norway-oslo-wireless-charging-electric-taxis-car-zero-emissions-induction). They'll love it as their app will be already widely used, their name is known - and they'll have no more issues with drivers' rights.
    As for the world needing change - we've all seen it and are seeing it. My grandad probably never travelled outside of Brighton. My family name never moved out of Sussex.  I regularly travelled 100+ miles a day for work alone. The family name is now all over the country and abroad. Peterborough is commutable to London. Now the world is tooooo small for individual 'small' countries like ours to make any real difference. Hence my views on EU - we need more stable, more inclusive governments that can actually make changes that have a real effect. Saying we're, the UK, going zero carbon, whilst using China as our manufacturing base (to hide our carbon emissions?)  hardly works eh? And doing trade deals with countries on the opposite side of the earth rather than local trade is just slightly counter intuitive as well eh if you're serious about trying to resolve the carbon issue.
    The big problem with my world view is that conflict always grows with civilisation size - so the risk of increasing any 'state' size is conflict with other states with different objectives. But as long as that can be avoided, the sooner we get to the United States Of Earth the better in my opinion. Manage the planet.


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Lamp posts https://www.driving.co.uk/news/lamp-post-powered-electric-car-charging-points-arrive-london/

    Mind you, the potential for mindless vandalism needs to be catered for ...

    Lamp posts around here are typically about 100 yards apart so although a help, they will make little overall difference to the problems.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Hostafan1 said:
    KT53 said:

    One question to which nobody seems to have an answer is how those living in rows of older terraced houses are going to have access to charging points.  Many older terraced properties are only wide enough to park one car in front, and many have no parking available adjacent to the property.  One family I know has 4 cars, and all are used on a daily basis because their shift patterns and work locations preclude the use of public transport.  Would the power supply to a domestic home even have the capacity to charge all 4 at one time?
    What about those who live in tower blocks? 

    VERY long electric leads.
  • I know I am going back a bit in the discussion but the issue of  "will the power grid cope with charging all these cars" the answer is almost certainly not. As an example friends of ours are in Wales & currently converting an old vicarage into  5 holiday flats. They wanted to put electric cookers in each one. They were told very firmly that the power supply could not cope, as they have to allow for the possibility of them all being used at the same time.  When they enquired about the cost of upgrading the power to the property they were told again NO the power supply in the ROAD could not cope. OK this is a small rural area, but imagine a typical urban street with everyone coming home  from work & wanting to plug their cars in at the same time! 
     Its all very well saying use public transport, & where we are we are well connected, but certain journeys are difficult. An example is we went to Alexandra Palace last night 30 mins there in rush hour <20 mins home by car. On the tube we would have to go into central London & back out again. 1 hr 40 mins minimum, 3 trains & a bus  & a walk each way. 
    AB Still learning

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    doing without a car isn't an option here as there are only 2 buses a day and the nearest railway station is an hours drive away.
    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Hostafan1 said:
    doing without a car isn't an option here as there are only 2 buses a day and the nearest railway station is an hours drive away.
    Exactly so - even these days, rural living is completely different from city/urban/suburban - not always taken into account.
    and we're too far from London for Westminster to give a toss
    Devon.
  • I agree completely about rural areas,  but as I said even in suburbia sometimes you just need a car too.
    AB Still learning

  • josusa47josusa47 Posts: 3,530
    We live on a long narrow group of islands which has most of the jobs at one end and most of the homes at the other.  I'd vote for (almost) any party that would move the UK capital to the Scottish border, and refuse planning consent for any new housing development that doesn't also have places for people to work, shop and play.  Commuting is such a shocking waste of time and energy.  My mum, husband and I have managed to reach the ages of 96, 71 and 68 without ever owning a car.  Simple, we never choose a house or apply for a job that isn't accessible by public transport.  I accept that isn't an option for everyone.  
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Certainly not an option in rural France.  About 18 months ago an edict went out form central govt to reduce all 90kph limits to 80 to cut both accidents and emissions.   Rural dwellers in uproar as they do not have the option of public transport for work or play or even school in many cases.   Recently, Paris decided that local mayor could use their discretion.   

    One such mayor has put the limit back up to 90kph on the grounds that a) it takes less time for his rural population to get to and from work and b) being rural and lower paid, they couldn't afford the fines for breaking the 80 limit.

    Priceless, but a reality.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Once the sea levels rise people will be moving away from London fairly rapidly I imagine :# This small island could get a lot smaller if we carry on the way we are.

    I expect we'll see a lot more restrictions on flying and other travel soon otherwise what's the point in cutting down on car use? Lets face it though car manufacturers will be expecting boom sales in the year before the ban comes in and cars will last 20 or more years after that. Unless there are some serious restrictions on engine sizes and efficiencies before then we won't see any benefit for a long time. In a country where something as simple as the plastic bag ban still isn't working can you really see restrictions on cars having any guts behind them?
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
Sign In or Register to comment.