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Is there anywhere in Britain that isn't under a flight path?

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  • BluejaywayBluejayway Posts: 392
    It’s still an awful lot of land that could grow something to go direct to human consumers.
    The problem is that meat eaters will never agree that their diet is harmful either to themselves or the planet.  They will always try to justify it.  Non-meat eaters will always try to defend their way of life too.  It really is a no-win situation for both sides of the argument as long as that divide exists.
  • BluejaywayBluejayway Posts: 392
    At least 95% of your diet should be plant-based in order to be at your healthiest they say.  I can only go off my own and my immediate family’s experience of course but I am almost 70 and, so far, have no need of any meds.  When my father died young of a heart attack and most of my recent ancestors also had heart disease in some form or other, I think that may just speak for itself.  
  • ErgatesErgates Posts: 2,953
    Back on the original topic, our local airport has contact information to report instances of aircraft either low flying, or straying off the approved flight path. We are only 10 miles from Exeter airport, but can see the planes on final approach in the distance. Not a nuisance for us. They rarely pass overhead, and as we are both flying enthusiasts, probably wouldn’t bother us anyway. Love to see the Atlas, and Globemasters on their way to do touch- and- go exercises, and the Chinooks passing by. 
    Our parish council has a representative on the local airport public relations committee, so any infringements are watched closely. 
    The airport is relatively quiet since Flybe went out of business, but even at its busiest, we are sufficiently outside the flight path not to have been affected. The worst offenders seem to be Ryanair, whom we suspect of shortcutting onto short finals to save fuel! It is possible to live relatively near an airport without having to suffer planes directly overhead , as long as you are outside the restricted zones.  

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I am fascinated by who they are, @Bluejayway, because whilst I would agree that most of us should eat less meat, I can think of no evidence that we should be 95% plant based.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    With deer I don't see a problem - a wide, licensed cull can provide cheap, wild, healthy, non-reared meat whilst tackling a pest that is damaging forestry and much else. Humans created the problem and humans should solve it.

    M&S sell vension flown in from NZ that has raised on farms.🤯 It's all about the cost margins, but it seems the definition of nuts to me.

  • BluejaywayBluejayway Posts: 392
    punkdoc said:
    I am fascinated by who they are, @Bluejayway, because whilst I would agree that most of us should eat less meat, I can think of no evidence that we should be 95% plant based.
    I believe it is known as the Blue Zone diet, the idea being that people who live in these zones are healthier than average.  
  • ViewAheadViewAhead Posts: 866
    But for the average woman, that would mean eating 1900 calories worth of plant matter a day!  You wouldn't have time to do anything else, surely?  Meat is calorie-dense and highly nutritious.  We are designed to eat it. 
  • BluejaywayBluejayway Posts: 392
    edited 16 January
    ViewAhead said:
    But for the average woman, that would mean eating 1900 calories worth of plant matter a day!  You wouldn't have time to do anything else, surely?  Meat is calorie-dense and highly nutritious.  We are designed to eat it. 
    What can I say?  For the last 40 years I have eaten a 100% plant based diet.  I am average size, not under or overweight and have also been following the 16/8 fasting pattern for the past 5 years or so.  I eat nothing from 6pm until noon the next day (apart from on special occasions!) and then only eat two meals with one snack between.  I have loads of energy and never feel bloated or over-full.  It suits me down to the ground but I can appreciate that you have to get used to it at first.  It’s second nature to me now.  I started this way of eating because of my love of animals and the happy side effect of better health was quite a surprise.  Even if I was to change my mind about animals (which would never happen I can assure you all) my diet would not be changed.  I am very happy with it ❤️
  • Penny_ForthemPenny_Forthem Posts: 455
    edited 16 January
    To take us back to the original thread, we have few planes overhead, but we are on one of the flight paths for Liverpool.
    I was very small (2 years old) when, in 1952, we were on holiday visiting family at Farnborough. The air disaster that year killed 29 members of the audience. I was flung under a car. It has taken me many years to accept a plane flying overhead, without the need for overhead shelter, however stupid (like a bus stop).
    I can now watch the magnificent Beluga XL on its flight path to Hawarden. And marvel at its technology - and the sheer noise it produces.
    The Clwydian range is about to become a Dark sky zone and is almost plane free.
    Beautiful North Wales - hiraeth
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