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...the Clematis season... 2019...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited March 2019
    Look forward to those Yviestevie... love Markhams Pink, I used to have that one.. yes clems and roses go so well together but sometimes  I think  you just need to view them separately too..

    @purplerallim   Jolly good... I think frosts are a problem for all of us with our gr. 2 and 3 clematis even those in the ground.. I mean if I got a -5 I might worry that those tender new shoots would be damaged, but I find they grow back again pretty quick this time of year..


    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I've just planted some new ones.. 'The Vagabond' which I've had before and 'Miss Bateman'.. both in very small pots, - cheap - ...  'Princess Diana' and 'Belle of Woking'... I don't know these well enough..
    ...I struggle to plant those big 2 year old plants in my conditions...

    I think I've lost one over winter... I see no sign of my jouniana 'Mrs Robert Brydon'.. if anyone has this can they tell me please is it late to appear above ground? because there is no sign of mine... thanks..
    East Anglia, England
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I don't think you need to worry about most Group 2 or 3 clematis in the UK.
    We have regular periods of sub minus 5 in winter here, and it's never affected any clematis I have now, or have had in the past.
    To date, we've had over forty frosts this winter, as well as lots of days/nights of 2 or 3 degrees, snow, ice etc. My clematis are all growing well, and have had new growth for the last four or five weeks at least.  If they're not growing well, I'd think it's more likely down to the conditions they're growing in, or something like slugs eating new growth. A healthy, mature plant won't be affected too much by that either, and will produce new shoots.
    Competition from other plants can inhibit growth a bit too. Perhaps that's the problem with the RB, Marlorena?

    My Constance will start flowering in the next week or so - it's full of buds. Always lovely when it starts. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I shall wait a bit longer as it may be a late starter.. it flowers very late but if I don't see anything by mid May I shall think it's a gonner…  

    I planted a nice purpurea plena elegans group 3 the other day too. I forgot about that one...
    East Anglia, England
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I forgot it's [R. Brydon] a herbaceous type, Marlorena. Perhaps other plants are hiding it a bit? 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..no nothing hiding it, the area is clear... although I've noticed rosebay willowherb trying to invade the area I wonder if that's anything to do with it.. running roots …  thanks for your help though..
    East Anglia, England
  • owd potterowd potter Posts: 979
    Thanks @Marlorena
    I don't know if it regenerates from base annually, this is the first year for me as I inherited them.
    They were looking very spindly so I cut them both back hard to 1st buds. 
    A renovation crop I think they refer to it as, which a lot of other things are getting lately, 
    I'm feeling a bit like grim reaper...
    Owd  
    Just another day at the plant...
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    edited March 2019
    Encourages more shoots from the base, Imp. Gardener. 
    If you put a couple of vine eyes and wire on the fence, at about a foot off the soil level, and then remove all the gubbins and the label from it, you can tie in the new growth horizontally to give better coverage  :)
    If your soil's poor, it's worth adding plenty of good compost and some well rotted manure to it each year to help. Water is very important as well, so keep it well watered till established, and add a mulch of compost after watering to help it.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Yes - they're only there to support it while it's in a pot. If you leave it, it'll tend to just grow upwards as a big clump.
    If you're concerned about  taking away the canes, you can leave them in for now, and just remove the ties on the stems. You can then tie the freed stems onto the wires, if you do them. Alternatively, put some other canes in just below the trellis, at 6 to 12 inch intervals,  and tie them gently onto those. They'll bridge the gap, and give support until the stems get to the trellis. 

    That way, the stems will eventually cover a better area, as well as growing vertically. You'll be able to remove the original canes at a later date, or when it gets pruned. Just take your time with it :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Janie BJanie B Posts: 963
    So, I decided on these three from Taylors Clematis to plant up in pots to cover my new fence. They seem to be healthy plants, so fingers crossed! Sea Breeze, Sunny Sky and Mary Rose, all viticella ("durable, easy-care, vigorous and free-flowering"). 



    Lincolnshire
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