Phyllis Bide is as Marlorena said, and though I think it is lovely, I saw it in the flesh and the colour is the only thing that put me off (as a personal thing only). It is pink and yellow and apricot. If I remember it was also a thornless or relatively thornless one. The flowers have a shaggy look, but still look neat, I found that appealing. I also used that search, and know what you mean, at one point Malvern was on the thornless (relatively) list then next time was missing.
Undecided. But I think I've narrowed it down to a few options.
Mortimer Sackler + Generous Gardener
or
Shropshire Lad + Generous Gardener
or
Shropshire Lad + Mortimer Sackler
All three are meant to have good disease resistance and have AGMs.
The only thing making me question Shropshire Lad is that the height is shorter than the other two and if it is true to that then it may not grow tall enough to train the way I want it. Although I took note of what @Marlorena said about roses often being capable of growing much larger than the websites say.
I wonder which you will choose... I don't like to put people off buying a rose, but I can't help but feel compelled to pass on anything I know from experience, but that sometimes isn't always welcome as I can be critical of roses as much as anything else... unlike vendors who will only enthuse about all that they sell... very few roses are perfect.. Also, don't take too much notice of AGM's.. the last rose trial for Austins was in 2012, so anything since then would not have been trialled..
With that in mind.. 'A Shropshire Lad'... I've not grown this, but I am told it blooms in two flushes, one main and a later one in Aug/Sept... with little in between... the blooms don't last that long, but are quite beautiful... Scented, but not especially strong.. it is a large shrub that can be trained as a climber... 10 foot or so..
'The Generous Gardener'... Austin's only true climbing rose that I know of... in that it will send tall climbing canes from the base... a wonderful first main flush, sweetly scented, large blush pink blooms... reblooms continually till autumn but you don't get that many... it's sporadic, a few here and there...15 foot or so...
'Mortimer Sackler'... sweetly scented flowers, lovely foliage on this rose which I found very upright in growth... another large shrub that can be trained to climb... not a true climber.. very healthy, without blemish and the best reblooming rose of these 3, always producing new buds and flowers.... they have one drawback... in hot sun the blooms will crisp and fry a little... turning brown at the edges... it's gradual, and you see it on one or two a day, not all the flowers... but it annoyed me enough to go out there and cut them off as I saw them...10 foot bolt upright for me... can be trained over an arch..
Thanks @Marlorena, you're a star! As a complete beginner to roses and with nothing to go on other than inconsistent website information your advice has been fantastic.
both Sackler and GG look and sound great. Do you know a rose that is similar to GG in colour (or not as long as they would go together) and size but flowers as profusely as Sackler?
If you would like more choices, I think you should look at these two... I do not have either in my collection, - I would if I could - but I've heard nothing but good reports about both, and as you may gather, I know rather a lot of rose people, from all around the world, including England..
I have savoured 'Strawberry Hill'... and although it's not named after the fruit, to me it smells of fresh strawberries... I absolutely loved it... it makes a tall, somewhat gangly climber, but the blooms are large and just gorgeous..
..this is another I've heard nothing but glowing reports about.. it is a bit thorny, but if you like a white rose, this is quite superb... take no notice of it being an 1850 Tea rose, that information is incorrect... it's actually a rose bred in the mid 20th Century,.. it's always in bloom right into November, and the scent is wonderful, so I'm told... It will certainly climb your wall.. but I'm not sure what colour your wall is, if it's white, then maybe one of the pinks... but... up to you...
Watching this thread made me wanting a rambling rose, didn't realise they were so many repeat flowering variety's. A few I've looked at have already been mentioned.
This is a Picture of my generous garderner rose close ups, its beautiful and smells lovely. I think its got some flowers on now but these were the first flush.
Beautiful Perki…. they just get better with age... the climbing rose with the most blooms for me right now is good old 'Zephirine Drouhin', a thornless rambler/climber.. it does get disease issues, mildew, some black spot, but it's worth it regardless... I hardly notice it..
Laguna.. go with your heart... maybe Mortimer/GG... look nice together.. or 'SL'... they're what you've singled out on your own,.. all good roses...
@Marlorena Thank you so much for your reply. I used Mycorrhizal fungi on Lady Emma and I do hope she'll start to grow next Spring.
Just in case someone wants to know and no one mentioned, I have a Claire Austen and can tell that it is extremely vigorous and healthy. She has creamy white flowers non stop. It is in fact too vigorous, especially compared to a Shropshire Lad which is on the same fence. The lad doesn't do very well at all, maybe because it is stuck behind a Salix Flamingo.
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The flowers have a shaggy look, but still look neat, I found that appealing.
I also used that search, and know what you mean, at one point Malvern was on the thornless (relatively) list then next time was missing.
Mortimer Sackler + Generous Gardener
or
Shropshire Lad + Generous Gardener
or
Shropshire Lad + Mortimer Sackler
All three are meant to have good disease resistance and have AGMs.
The only thing making me question Shropshire Lad is that the height is shorter than the other two and if it is true to that then it may not grow tall enough to train the way I want it. Although I took note of what @Marlorena said about roses often being capable of growing much larger than the websites say.
Also, don't take too much notice of AGM's.. the last rose trial for Austins was in 2012, so anything since then would not have been trialled..
With that in mind..
'A Shropshire Lad'... I've not grown this, but I am told it blooms in two flushes, one main and a later one in Aug/Sept... with little in between... the blooms don't last that long, but are quite beautiful... Scented, but not especially strong.. it is a large shrub that can be trained as a climber... 10 foot or so..
'The Generous Gardener'... Austin's only true climbing rose that I know of... in that it will send tall climbing canes from the base... a wonderful first main flush, sweetly scented, large blush pink blooms... reblooms continually till autumn but you don't get that many... it's sporadic, a few here and there...15 foot or so...
'Mortimer Sackler'... sweetly scented flowers, lovely foliage on this rose which I found very upright in growth... another large shrub that can be trained to climb... not a true climber.. very healthy, without blemish and the best reblooming rose of these 3, always producing new buds and flowers.... they have one drawback... in hot sun the blooms will crisp and fry a little... turning brown at the edges... it's gradual, and you see it on one or two a day, not all the flowers... but it annoyed me enough to go out there and cut them off as I saw them...10 foot bolt upright for me... can be trained over an arch..
The choice is yours...
'Mortimer Sackler'...
'The Generous Gardener' first year rose, about 5 foot tall... huge blooms..
both Sackler and GG look and sound great. Do you know a rose that is similar to GG in colour (or not as long as they would go together) and size but flowers as profusely as Sackler?
I do quite like the open flowers.
I have savoured 'Strawberry Hill'... and although it's not named after the fruit, to me it smells of fresh strawberries... I absolutely loved it... it makes a tall, somewhat gangly climber, but the blooms are large and just gorgeous..
https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/strawberry-hill?___SID=U
..this is another I've heard nothing but glowing reports about.. it is a bit thorny, but if you like a white rose, this is quite superb... take no notice of it being an 1850 Tea rose, that information is incorrect... it's actually a rose bred in the mid 20th Century,.. it's always in bloom right into November, and the scent is wonderful, so I'm told...
It will certainly climb your wall.. but I'm not sure what colour your wall is, if it's white, then maybe one of the pinks... but... up to you...
https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/sombreuil?___SID=U
This is a Picture of my generous garderner rose close ups, its beautiful and smells lovely. I think its got some flowers on now but these were the first flush.
Laguna.. go with your heart... maybe Mortimer/GG... look nice together.. or 'SL'... they're what you've singled out on your own,.. all good roses...
Thank you so much for your reply. I used Mycorrhizal fungi on Lady Emma and I do hope she'll start to grow next Spring.
Just in case someone wants to know and no one mentioned, I have a Claire Austen and can tell that it is extremely vigorous and healthy. She has creamy white flowers non stop. It is in fact too vigorous, especially compared to a Shropshire Lad which is on the same fence. The lad doesn't do very well at all, maybe because it is stuck behind a Salix Flamingo.