I agree Dove but that means more taxes and more social care too. Which Peter are you going to have to rob to pay for Paul if people won't pay more taxes and/or the government can't learn to spend more efficiently?
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Spot on Obe, this is a very rich country. I wonder how we‘ll fare if the NHS get privatised, Prime Minister talking of trade deals with USA for contracts.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
Trouble is, if you tax estates after death people will lose the incentive to save and/or find ways of passing their money on before they die. Better to have a complete clean up of all those self-employed and consultants who use advisers and loop-holes to avoid paying tax. I used to work with a woman whose husband was a "self-employed" car mechanic and they prided themselves on the fact that he paid no taxes by the time they'd used every means possible to claim against so it's little people as well as big name stars/politicians/financiers who are at it.
If you live in a country, whether native or immigrant, you should observe its laws and customs and pay your share for the services and security you and your family and/or business receive. Simples.
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Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
I feel,the NHS does a great job overall but is to large to be managed efficiently , then you add in the Politicians who use it as a polictcal football
As part of me doing a Business Degree you had to do a real life consultancy , Mine was at the local Hospital , fantastic caring people but financial management was not good , any private company would have gone under . Senior Management at the Hospital did not like our presentation , even thought we where very positive in our Report
I totally agree Obelixx, people must pay the correct amount of tax.
Even more importantly Corporations need to pay what they owe.
I do however, doubt that even in the unlikely event that this were to happen, that we would have enough to fund the explosion in social care, that is going to be necessary in the developed world.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
Been busy this morning. Planted Hellebore, Iris Jane Phillips and snowdrops. Weeded the borders, although not many weeds around as I mulched in the autumn this year instead of the spring. Think I'll do the same this year. Cut back a large mahonia as it was getting out of hand and then took myself off to Ashwoods garden centre for a browse. Didn't buy anything though.
It's really cold here but nice and sunny, rather have that than the rain and gloom.
Spending tomorrow with Firstborn and the girls and then I'm off to Liverpool with Secondborn and Jonah on Thursday. A very close friend died and we couldn't make the funeral so we are going to see the family. Although sad, in some ways it was a blessing as he had Huntington's and had suffered for a good many years.
You do have to bear in mind that 'Corporations' include lots of little guys - mobile hairdressers and pub landlords and taxi drivers and farmers all pay corporation tax. I completely agree that everyone should pay their fair share and that Amazon and Google are not the only scale of tax dodger out there. But it's also true that in this country, vast numbers of people are 'self employed' and paying corporation tax on very small profits. Increasing Corporation Tax rarely affects the Googles of this world - they pay their accountants to avoid it anyway. It'll be the small local shops that carry it and with the recent business rates rises, many are borderline already.
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
Um, small self-employed businesses don't pay Corporation Tax, only Limited Companies do. Most self-employed people are taxed on their income, according to how much they earn.
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I agree Dove but that means more taxes and more social care too. Which Peter are you going to have to rob to pay for Paul if people won't pay more taxes and/or the government can't learn to spend more efficiently?
Spot on Obe, this is a very rich country. I wonder how we‘ll fare if the NHS get privatised, Prime Minister talking of trade deals with USA for contracts.
Obelixx. Prisons cost a whole lot more per person than mental health care. And the effects crime have on society cost money also.
I think that one of the things we need to consider, is a new way of funding social care.
It is clear with an increasingly elderly population [ people on this forum excepted ], that social care will consume more and more of the NHS budget.
I think we need to be really bold and although I am sure most will disagree, I would consider some form of taxation on estates after death.
On a more cheerful note, have managed a couple of hours weeding, performed from a horizontal position and very enjoyable it was too.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
Trouble is, if you tax estates after death people will lose the incentive to save and/or find ways of passing their money on before they die. Better to have a complete clean up of all those self-employed and consultants who use advisers and loop-holes to avoid paying tax. I used to work with a woman whose husband was a "self-employed" car mechanic and they prided themselves on the fact that he paid no taxes by the time they'd used every means possible to claim against so it's little people as well as big name stars/politicians/financiers who are at it.
If you live in a country, whether native or immigrant, you should observe its laws and customs and pay your share for the services and security you and your family and/or business receive. Simples.
Last edited: 20 February 2018 13:32:31
I feel,the NHS does a great job overall but is to large to be managed efficiently , then you add in the Politicians who use it as a polictcal football
As part of me doing a Business Degree you had to do a real life consultancy , Mine was at the local Hospital , fantastic caring people but financial management was not good , any private company would have gone under . Senior Management at the Hospital did not like our presentation , even thought we where very positive in our Report
I totally agree Obelixx, people must pay the correct amount of tax.
Even more importantly Corporations need to pay what they owe.
I do however, doubt that even in the unlikely event that this were to happen, that we would have enough to fund the explosion in social care, that is going to be necessary in the developed world.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
Been busy this morning. Planted Hellebore, Iris Jane Phillips and snowdrops. Weeded the borders, although not many weeds around as I mulched in the autumn this year instead of the spring. Think I'll do the same this year. Cut back a large mahonia as it was getting out of hand and then took myself off to Ashwoods garden centre for a browse. Didn't buy anything though.
It's really cold here but nice and sunny, rather have that than the rain and gloom.
Spending tomorrow with Firstborn and the girls and then I'm off to Liverpool with Secondborn and Jonah on Thursday. A very close friend died and we couldn't make the funeral so we are going to see the family. Although sad, in some ways it was a blessing as he had Huntington's and had suffered for a good many years.
You do have to bear in mind that 'Corporations' include lots of little guys - mobile hairdressers and pub landlords and taxi drivers and farmers all pay corporation tax. I completely agree that everyone should pay their fair share and that Amazon and Google are not the only scale of tax dodger out there. But it's also true that in this country, vast numbers of people are 'self employed' and paying corporation tax on very small profits. Increasing Corporation Tax rarely affects the Googles of this world - they pay their accountants to avoid it anyway. It'll be the small local shops that carry it and with the recent business rates rises, many are borderline already.
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
Um, small self-employed businesses don't pay Corporation Tax, only Limited Companies do. Most self-employed people are taxed on their income, according to how much they earn.
I know, because I was one, once.