our Brexit brought out the doom and gloom merchants before and after the vote and what happened? well nothing much apart from Scotland getting wind up their Kilts.
raisingirl, we've not ever started getting out yet and every day the cost involved are predicted to rise. Solicitors and " negotiators" will screw us for as much as they can, for as long as they can before one single person sees any benefit.
I'm sure many who voted leave will be dead and forgotten before it's over.
I think the vote for Trump had much the same root as our vote for Brexit. People are sick of politicians who are seen as self serving, ignoring the interests of the general population and treating everybody as if they are incapable of making reasoned decisions.
Although Trump isn't a poltician in the usual sense of the word, all those around him most certainly are. Trump won't be free to do what he wants, when he wants. He's the visible face of the Republican party, but potentially little more than a mouthpiece. The political elite aren't going to allow him to screw things up for them for the future. Just look at all the claims and pledges made be previous leaders in the USA and UK, compare that with what actually happened and see if you can find any match!
The effect of Trump in the White House will potentially be the more dramatic of the two events, but there's nothing we can to except go along for the ride.
That's the whole point isn't it? Not a politician with all the lazy/money grubbing and grabbing and corrupt swamp associations. Unfortunately he is jstill a creature of the swamp, just a different kind.
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raisingirl, we've not ever started getting out yet and every day the cost involved are predicted to rise. Solicitors and " negotiators" will screw us for as much as they can, for as long as they can before one single person sees any benefit.
I'm sure many who voted leave will be dead and forgotten before it's over.
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“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I think the vote for Trump had much the same root as our vote for Brexit. People are sick of politicians who are seen as self serving, ignoring the interests of the general population and treating everybody as if they are incapable of making reasoned decisions.
Although Trump isn't a poltician in the usual sense of the word, all those around him most certainly are. Trump won't be free to do what he wants, when he wants. He's the visible face of the Republican party, but potentially little more than a mouthpiece. The political elite aren't going to allow him to screw things up for them for the future. Just look at all the claims and pledges made be previous leaders in the USA and UK, compare that with what actually happened and see if you can find any match!
The effect of Trump in the White House will potentially be the more dramatic of the two events, but there's nothing we can to except go along for the ride.
I just hope that Trump has some good people on his staff to keep things going.
I just hope the next woman he tries it on with, decks him. A bloody nose would be good. Far better than complaining about it years later.
I think even his biggest fans would hesitate to characterise Trump as a Statesman?
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
That's the whole point isn't it? Not a politician with all the lazy/money grubbing and grabbing and corrupt swamp associations. Unfortunately he is jstill a creature of the swamp, just a different kind.
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“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”