Watched it this afternoon, much better, something for everyone, fell in love with Adam's new house and future garden. Really looking forward to seeing it develop. There was gardening and talking and plants and gardens to look at. Great.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
Not keen on the Toxteth section thought. Plants did seem too low as others have said and I'm not sure they're not targets for theives ( thefts from garden are on the increase ). One big, HEAVY chunky planter might have been better for that situation. See original post
I'm afraid to say you both flatter and delude yourself if you think that. When I respond to posts I generally don't even register who has posted. I'm replying to the content not the person. I certainly don't go searching out posts by any individual with the purpose of contradicting them.
Hmmm. Not seen the whole thing yet so may report back, but any additional time given to more serious gardening programmes (not makeovers etc) has GOT to be good news:
1) Gardening's more than a hobby - it's good for the soul, for everybody, so I think should have more presence on a public subscription channel.
2) The audience is so massively varied - sounds on here for instance that there are people who like to look at images of nice gardens and those who like the soap opera of Monty & the dogs. There are people with tiny gardens and those with acres; people who live in the city, who live on the coast, who have heavy soil, light soil, mainly grow veg, mainly ornamentals etc etc etc and there are always new gardeners who need to be told how to eg deadhead a flower.
3) It's an absolutely huge subject: to choose a single plant for the garden, you really need to know longevity (perennial v annual), aspect (sun/shade etc), shelter (windy etc), soil type, soil pH, eventual height, eventual spread, rate of growth, habit & growth throughout the year (you can plant sun-loving summer plants next to bulbs but not in the shade of an evergreen shrub; planting under a tree is very different for plants which thrive before it gets its full canopy), potential pests, potential diseases (and their solutions), alternative ways to grow (from seed, via propagation, buying young or mature from suppliers), water / feed requirements, pruning regime, whether to remove seeds/flowers etc etc etc. So that's one plant, now for the second... How can you fit enough of this into (in the half-hour programme) 10 minutes a week? I imagine the reason you don't see many of Monty's projects all the way through(one of the complaints here) is that the attitude seems to be very laissez-faire, and I imagine produces more failures than successes. Personally, I'm not interested in that, and I'm presumably joined by anyone on a tight budget / hates killing things - you need to get it right more than not or it's a waste - ornamental banana indeed(!).
Perhaps there are a number of programmes here, as it's difficult to imagine the kind of detail I'd want dovetailing nicely with info-free images of beds with dogs in. As I say at the start, I'm really, really surprised an organisation like the Beeb isn't pumping out garden programmes left, right and centre - there seems to be so much public service in encouraging people to be more active, enjoy their environment, get food from somewhere other than supermarkets, do something which seems to be intrinsically good for the mind/mood, which transcends generations and backgrounds...
Rob L - most of us on here would agree with you but it seems the powers that Beeb are slow to cotton on to the importance of gardens and gardening for personal, community and environmental well being. It surely can't be any more expensive to produce than wall to wall antiquing and cookery programmes in diverse formats.
As you say, it is a huge subject with endless possibilities for informative and entertaining programmes.
I think we don't get follow-ups of Monty's assorted projects because there isn't a plan for the season. It all seems to be very much "what shall we do today?" so there's no continuity.
Very pleased GW has been extended to one hour and introduced new features and ideas but still say "Thank heavens for Beechgrove!" which does trials and projects on plants/products/methods and reports back.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Stuff and nonsense from a lot of namby pamby whingers above. Crack open the booze and celebrate this small victory for the greenfingered over the tyranny of sport on tv. This is payback time for all the cancelled episodes back in the spring. Watching the sainted Monty and his hairy flock of dogs pottering whimsically round the garden is a great tonic after the weekly diet of global apocalypse.
I've just watched the last 2 episodes of GW and liked them immensely. Monty, Carol, Nigel, Nell, birds, plants and the new chap; what's not to like?
Of course, the usual suspects have already found plenty to moan about: from the magnificent MD to his adorable dogs and even the weather forecast!
If the weather is not of interest to gardeners, I can't imagine to whom it would be; though I fully understand why this would be a waste of time to someone living outside the UK, of course. As for the weather presenter's attire, as long as it doesn't affect the weather itself, why should anyone care if the presenter is dressed in a ball gaown, mini skirt or white tie?
Relating to AF, I have one suggestion for him: keep mentioning GH, as no one will ever say a bad word about him and you'll be, thus, safe under his "umbrella"; for, otherwise, some will start commenting on the size of your property, your clothes, your accent or even how "thin" they fancy you've suddenly become. Good luck!
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Watched it this afternoon, much better, something for everyone, fell in love with Adam's new house and future garden. Really looking forward to seeing it develop. There was gardening and talking and plants and gardens to look at. Great.
Good tip: Use diving weights as crocks!
kt, I know your default position is to contradict anything I say , but it was meant as tongue in cheek.
I'm afraid to say you both flatter and delude yourself if you think that. When I respond to posts I generally don't even register who has posted. I'm replying to the content not the person. I certainly don't go searching out posts by any individual with the purpose of contradicting them.
Hmmm. Not seen the whole thing yet so may report back, but any additional time given to more serious gardening programmes (not makeovers etc) has GOT to be good news:
1) Gardening's more than a hobby - it's good for the soul, for everybody, so I think should have more presence on a public subscription channel.
2) The audience is so massively varied - sounds on here for instance that there are people who like to look at images of nice gardens and those who like the soap opera of Monty & the dogs. There are people with tiny gardens and those with acres; people who live in the city, who live on the coast, who have heavy soil, light soil, mainly grow veg, mainly ornamentals etc etc etc and there are always new gardeners who need to be told how to eg deadhead a flower.
3) It's an absolutely huge subject: to choose a single plant for the garden, you really need to know longevity (perennial v annual), aspect (sun/shade etc), shelter (windy etc), soil type, soil pH, eventual height, eventual spread, rate of growth, habit & growth throughout the year (you can plant sun-loving summer plants next to bulbs but not in the shade of an evergreen shrub; planting under a tree is very different for plants which thrive before it gets its full canopy), potential pests, potential diseases (and their solutions), alternative ways to grow (from seed, via propagation, buying young or mature from suppliers), water / feed requirements, pruning regime, whether to remove seeds/flowers etc etc etc. So that's one plant, now for the second... How can you fit enough of this into (in the half-hour programme) 10 minutes a week? I imagine the reason you don't see many of Monty's projects all the way through(one of the complaints here) is that the attitude seems to be very laissez-faire, and I imagine produces more failures than successes. Personally, I'm not interested in that, and I'm presumably joined by anyone on a tight budget / hates killing things - you need to get it right more than not or it's a waste - ornamental banana indeed(!).
Perhaps there are a number of programmes here, as it's difficult to imagine the kind of detail I'd want dovetailing nicely with info-free images of beds with dogs in. As I say at the start, I'm really, really surprised an organisation like the Beeb isn't pumping out garden programmes left, right and centre - there seems to be so much public service in encouraging people to be more active, enjoy their environment, get food from somewhere other than supermarkets, do something which seems to be intrinsically good for the mind/mood, which transcends generations and backgrounds...
Re Friday evening program me as anyone the web address to send a photo of an unusable plants?
Rob L - most of us on here would agree with you but it seems the powers that Beeb are slow to cotton on to the importance of gardens and gardening for personal, community and environmental well being. It surely can't be any more expensive to produce than wall to wall antiquing and cookery programmes in diverse formats.
As you say, it is a huge subject with endless possibilities for informative and entertaining programmes.
I think we don't get follow-ups of Monty's assorted projects because there isn't a plan for the season. It all seems to be very much "what shall we do today?" so there's no continuity.
Very pleased GW has been extended to one hour and introduced new features and ideas but still say "Thank heavens for Beechgrove!" which does trials and projects on plants/products/methods and reports back.
clearly you do respond to everything I say, so you're just talking total rubbish kt, so I'll dump you in the handy ignore section.
I'm sure you , doghouse and the others will get along just fine.
How I agree!
I've just watched the last 2 episodes of GW and liked them immensely. Monty, Carol, Nigel, Nell, birds, plants and the new chap; what's not to like?
Of course, the usual suspects have already found plenty to moan about: from the magnificent MD to his adorable dogs and even the weather forecast!
If the weather is not of interest to gardeners, I can't imagine to whom it would be; though I fully understand why this would be a waste of time to someone living outside the UK, of course. As for the weather presenter's attire, as long as it doesn't affect the weather itself, why should anyone care if the presenter is dressed in a ball gaown, mini skirt or white tie?
Relating to AF, I have one suggestion for him: keep mentioning GH, as no one will ever say a bad word about him and you'll be, thus, safe under his "umbrella"; for, otherwise, some will start commenting on the size of your property, your clothes, your accent or even how "thin" they fancy you've suddenly become. Good luck!