I've dipped in a few times, but none of it will change my opinion ( or that of anyone else I'm sure )
The simple truth is nobody KNOWS what will happen. Stay or leave, some things might be better some might be worse, but nobody knows.
We had friends staying recently who have a daughter who works in senior management for a Multi-national and they've been told ( but not junior staff) if it's OUT they'll be closing their London office and UK manufacturing plant. They've been banned from going public ,but she's told her mother she will have to move abroad to keep her job.
No doubt that's just scaremongering.
And quite frankly, I don't care if anyone believes me , or them.
Have been reading back a bit. Verdun said "I receive quite a number of pm's but would never publish them.....doesn't it cross the line? Would you trust someone who did this?" When we argued about Christianity Verdun told everyone about a PM I'd sent him because I was hurt by things he had said. He didn't publish all of it but he quoted bits of it out of context. I wasn't the Christian who sent him venomous PMs, but I did tell him I was upset by his attack. Everyone should be free to express themselves, whether right or wrong, so long as they don't deliberately hurt others.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
It might seem a small percentage, but it's of a phenomenally high figure. If my calculations are correct its something over £7 billion per year. That seems like a lot to me.
Maybe not so much in comparison with what Britain spends on other things - 13.71% on health, for instance, or 12.29% on pensions. And what is really important is what it's spent on, of course, and how well it's administered. I have no stats on that, just the story I told earlier about Madeira.
I feel so lucky to be British. Ok, our government etc is far from perfect, but it's basically a good place to live, which is why so many non-natives would like to live here. It's just by an accident of birth that I was born here, and not to a destitute barefoot farming family in Madeira. It feels like pulling up the drawbridge and refusing to share, to withdraw from the EU.
Merely my opinion...
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
That's wise, Tetley. I don't think the thread should be closed, but the subject should be stuck to without upsetting anyone. We can beg to differ. The world would be a boring place if we all thought the same. I don't agree with you over Europe but it's good to read what people think. For me, as an ex-pat, it would be best to stay in. I also think it would be best for the UK to stay in, but it's interesting to read the other views.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
It is interesting to hear the opinions from both sides of the debate and there are only two sides - no middle ground . What matters is what we think as our pencil hovers over the ballot paper.
I wonder how many whose gut reaction is to leave will 'hold on tight to nurse for fear of finding something worse'?
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Not from me BL - I agree with you
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I've dipped in a few times, but none of it will change my opinion ( or that of anyone else I'm sure )
The simple truth is nobody KNOWS what will happen. Stay or leave, some things might be better some might be worse, but nobody knows.
We had friends staying recently who have a daughter who works in senior management for a Multi-national and they've been told ( but not junior staff) if it's OUT they'll be closing their London office and UK manufacturing plant. They've been banned from going public ,but she's told her mother she will have to move abroad to keep her job.
No doubt that's just scaremongering.
And quite frankly, I don't care if anyone believes me , or them.
Have been reading back a bit. Verdun said "I receive quite a number of pm's but would never publish them.....doesn't it cross the line? Would you trust someone who did this?" When we argued about Christianity Verdun told everyone about a PM I'd sent him because I was hurt by things he had said. He didn't publish all of it but he quoted bits of it out of context. I wasn't the Christian who sent him venomous PMs, but I did tell him I was upset by his attack. Everyone should be free to express themselves, whether right or wrong, so long as they don't deliberately hurt others.
No it's time people stuck to the original subject and stopped running private feuds in public.
Just found out that Britain spends 0.37% of its GDP as its EU contribution each year. Doesn't seem a lot to me...
It might seem a small percentage, but it's of a phenomenally high figure. If my calculations are correct its something over £7 billion per year. That seems like a lot to me.
Maybe not so much in comparison with what Britain spends on other things - 13.71% on health, for instance, or 12.29% on pensions. And what is really important is what it's spent on, of course, and how well it's administered. I have no stats on that, just the story I told earlier about Madeira.
I feel so lucky to be British. Ok, our government etc is far from perfect, but it's basically a good place to live, which is why so many non-natives would like to live here. It's just by an accident of birth that I was born here, and not to a destitute barefoot farming family in Madeira. It feels like pulling up the drawbridge and refusing to share, to withdraw from the EU.
Merely my opinion...
That's wise, Tetley. I don't think the thread should be closed, but the subject should be stuck to without upsetting anyone. We can beg to differ. The world would be a boring place if we all thought the same. I don't agree with you over Europe but it's good to read what people think. For me, as an ex-pat, it would be best to stay in. I also think it would be best for the UK to stay in, but it's interesting to read the other views.
It is interesting to hear the opinions from both sides of the debate and there are only two sides - no middle ground . What matters is what we think as our pencil hovers over the ballot paper.
I wonder how many whose gut reaction is to leave will 'hold on tight to nurse for fear of finding something worse'?