I like climbers - up to a point . I had one in a previous garden, bought as it was supposedly highly scented, but it smelt of nothing. Perhaps we just don't get enough heat to bring it out up here!
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I totally agree pansyface. Up here there's a tendency for gardens to be full of rhodies, azaleas, camellias, roses and heathers. I appreciate those things grow very well in this climate but it doesn't mean you can't have a different look.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Obelixx, do you mean the first photo I sent on page 2? I think it's Tuscany, but planted it about 23 years ago and lost the garden plan and the label. Here it grows taller than the websites say, about 5 foot. The flowers are more deep velvety crimson than in the photo and it's semi-double, perfumed. http://www.paulbardenroses.com/gallicas/tuscany.html
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
This is the Paul's Hymalaya musk that I butchered, there are four main stems, should I lay these horizontal and tie in or should I cut them back shorter first, they are six ft at the moment, any help please.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
Verdun, stop playing up! All roses are gorgeous except for the blue grey ones!
i think Lyn I would keep to length you have now and tie in horizontal like you say and then when new shoots come just keep the ones that go in the direction you want them to and cut the others off. Think that is what Geoff Hamilton said to do in old dvd I watched recently
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I'm with Verd - don't like 'em.
I like climbers - up to a point . I had one in a previous garden, bought as it was supposedly highly scented, but it smelt of nothing. Perhaps we just don't get enough heat to bring it out up here!
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I totally agree pansyface. Up here there's a tendency for gardens to be full of rhodies, azaleas, camellias, roses and heathers. I appreciate those things grow very well in this climate but it doesn't mean you can't have a different look.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Thanks for the malvern hills photo Busy. It's a definite.
Obelixx, do you mean the first photo I sent on page 2? I think it's Tuscany, but planted it about 23 years ago and lost the garden plan and the label. Here it grows taller than the websites say, about 5 foot. The flowers are more deep velvety crimson than in the photo and it's semi-double, perfumed. http://www.paulbardenroses.com/gallicas/tuscany.html
Thanks Busy. It's a lovely rose.
This is the Paul's Hymalaya musk that I butchered, there are four main stems, should I lay these horizontal and tie in or should I cut them back shorter first, they are six ft at the moment, any help please.
Verdun, stop playing up!
All roses are gorgeous except for the blue grey ones! 
i think Lyn I would keep to length you have now and tie in horizontal like you say and then when new shoots come just keep the ones that go in the direction you want them to and cut the others off. Think that is what Geoff Hamilton said to do in old dvd I watched recently
That's what I was thinking, I must keep it in check next year!!