I just miss the fresh approach of the TB/AF era as I love gardening but am a relative newby at anything but flowers. I needed the light approach of Alys and Toby, though, as I said, I like Monty Don. That is the reason I brought it up. Feel like I'm misisng out on something now.
Andrea if you want a another gardening programme and have Sky or live in Scotland there isThe Beechgrove Garden on Thursdays-or watch on i-player-or GQT is stiil going on Radio4.
GW is currently the Beeb's lone offering for gardeners and it' snot enough ..
In my opinion, gardening, as an activity/pastime is very similar to cooking.
How many cookery series do the BBC have. It's seems there's a different cookery program on every day. And some individual cookery programs (Ready, Steady Cook) are sometimes on every day. And there are the various cookery/travel programs that feature cooking around the world.
I pay the same licence fee as cookery fans to, and I get just one program a week; sometimes none. I want a refund.
I like all of the presenters, even got used to Monty on his own garden. But I agree with Andrea..................... I canot abode RDT, the only person that grates me. Either very patronising or appearing to read off the auto Q
I agree with Gary why only one gardening programme? not even any repeats on sky at the moment. But A T has new programme comming on June 26th Love your garden transforming neglected gardens, could be interesting.
As an individual I really like Monty. I can identify with Monty. I thought his series about 80 Gardens and Italy were deep and thoughtful. But that's not everyday gardening.
In terms of TV presenters I do quite like the style of David Domoney (Garden ER). He's no Monty, but he is fresh and radical, and occasionally has a good idea.
We do have a TV garden-fest during Chelsea week, with a couple of programs every day. But if you're a cook (or an antique collector!) several programs per day are the norm.
Why does everyone have to dislike the presenters? Surely its the content of the programme we are all inerested in! Although i have to say Geff Hamillton was by far the best! no more name calling please
And as for GW - that's why there are several presenters, each playing to their strengths - the snide comments about Monty Don's 'acre's smack of nothing short of jealousy to me. His own garden may be larger than most of ours, but after his health scare who can blame him if he prefers to work from home? And at least it's not been bought with the Licence Payers money. He and his wife bought the place themselves ages ago and he's turned it into what it is - and it's actually not that large compared with some - the way it's divided up gives the opportunity to plan smaller areas - each of his 'rooms' appears to be about the same size as my whole garden, but most weeks he shows us something that I can relate to in my garden.
We also see Carole working in her own garden but the snipers prefer to make personal remarks about her appearance and manner because she's female.
The criticisms of Monty differ because he's seen as an Alpha Male so they snipe at his possessions/achievements.
Rachel de Thame may not be the most polished presenter, but she knows her stuff - I thought gardeners would be able to look past the 'presentation' to see the information.
The last thing we want the programme to do is employ presenters who are not gardeners, so can we just talk about gardening please?
If the snipers think they can do better they can always submit ideas/ pilot programmes to some of the independent channels ...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Firstly the discussion on presenters is mearly a short hand for the style of programme that they front, the type of gardening they show us.
I'm now a bit bored of Long Acres and it's formality - all box edged squares to hid the beds! I think there is a place for it but there's just too much. The programmes that both Alys and Carol did following their gardens through the year were both interesting for different reasons but most of it was 'out of season'.
How about not concentrating on Monty's patch so much and have the show come from 1 of maybe 4 presenters gardens each week in rotation so we get to see how to look after each through the year.
There are 4 presenters, each one tackiling a different aspect of gardening.None of them are on screen for very long.We each have our own preferences but if we like gardening, we'll watch them all.
They have to have someone with a big garden ( and GH and AT both had "rolling acres" to play with, GH even bought extra land) so that different aspects of gardening can be covered.How much mileage would you get if the presenter had a small urban plot? The programme is much better when it comes from a presenter's garden, they have ownership and care about the resultant effect.That's one reason Toby couldn't continue, his garden isn't big enough.
Personally I love CK, think JS is a good designer and knows about city gardenuing,RdT is fine, wafting around gardens and she does know about plants and although I personally can't stand MD he's doing a reasonable job.
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Paul N, I wasn't around for the first discussion.
I just miss the fresh approach of the TB/AF era as I love gardening but am a relative newby at anything but flowers. I needed the light approach of Alys and Toby, though, as I said, I like Monty Don. That is the reason I brought it up. Feel like I'm misisng out on something now.
Andrea if you want a another gardening programme and have Sky or live in Scotland there isThe Beechgrove Garden on Thursdays-or watch on i-player-or GQT is stiil going on Radio4.
In my opinion, gardening, as an activity/pastime is very similar to cooking.
How many cookery series do the BBC have. It's seems there's a different cookery program on every day. And some individual cookery programs (Ready, Steady Cook) are sometimes on every day. And there are the various cookery/travel programs that feature cooking around the world.
I pay the same licence fee as cookery fans to, and I get just one program a week; sometimes none. I want a refund.
I like all of the presenters, even got used to Monty on his own garden. But I agree with Andrea..................... I canot abode RDT, the only person that grates me. Either very patronising or appearing to read off the auto Q
I agree with Gary why only one gardening programme? not even any repeats on sky at the moment. But A T has new programme comming on June 26th Love your garden transforming neglected gardens, could be interesting.
As an individual I really like Monty. I can identify with Monty. I thought his series about 80 Gardens and Italy were deep and thoughtful. But that's not everyday gardening.
In terms of TV presenters I do quite like the style of David Domoney (Garden ER). He's no Monty, but he is fresh and radical, and occasionally has a good idea.
We do have a TV garden-fest during Chelsea week, with a couple of programs every day. But if you're a cook (or an antique collector!) several programs per day are the norm.
Why does everyone have to dislike the presenters? Surely its the content of the programme we are all inerested in! Although i have to say Geff Hamillton was by far the best! no more name calling please
Hear! Hear!
And as for GW - that's why there are several presenters, each playing to their strengths - the snide comments about Monty Don's 'acre's smack of nothing short of jealousy to me. His own garden may be larger than most of ours, but after his health scare who can blame him if he prefers to work from home? And at least it's not been bought with the Licence Payers money. He and his wife bought the place themselves ages ago and he's turned it into what it is - and it's actually not that large compared with some - the way it's divided up gives the opportunity to plan smaller areas - each of his 'rooms' appears to be about the same size as my whole garden, but most weeks he shows us something that I can relate to in my garden.
We also see Carole working in her own garden but the snipers prefer to make personal remarks about her appearance and manner because she's female.
The criticisms of Monty differ because he's seen as an Alpha Male so they snipe at his possessions/achievements.
Rachel de Thame may not be the most polished presenter, but she knows her stuff - I thought gardeners would be able to look past the 'presentation' to see the information.
The last thing we want the programme to do is employ presenters who are not gardeners, so can we just talk about gardening please?
If the snipers think they can do better they can always submit ideas/ pilot programmes to some of the independent channels ...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Firstly the discussion on presenters is mearly a short hand for the style of programme that they front, the type of gardening they show us.
I'm now a bit bored of Long Acres and it's formality - all box edged squares to hid the beds! I think there is a place for it but there's just too much. The programmes that both Alys and Carol did following their gardens through the year were both interesting for different reasons but most of it was 'out of season'.
How about not concentrating on Monty's patch so much and have the show come from 1 of maybe 4 presenters gardens each week in rotation so we get to see how to look after each through the year.
There are 4 presenters, each one tackiling a different aspect of gardening.None of them are on screen for very long.We each have our own preferences but if we like gardening, we'll watch them all.
They have to have someone with a big garden ( and GH and AT both had "rolling acres" to play with, GH even bought extra land) so that different aspects of gardening can be covered.How much mileage would you get if the presenter had a small urban plot? The programme is much better when it comes from a presenter's garden, they have ownership and care about the resultant effect.That's one reason Toby couldn't continue, his garden isn't big enough.
Personally I love CK, think JS is a good designer and knows about city gardenuing,RdT is fine, wafting around gardens and she does know about plants and although I personally can't stand MD he's doing a reasonable job.