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  • McRazzMcRazz Posts: 440
    A useful link for you all when coming up against articles such as WP...



  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Another Sabine Hossenfelder youtube clip posted within the last day about new climate change findings that are even more worrying

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8SQbsLWS9I

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • McRazzMcRazz Posts: 440
    edited 12 February
    https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2024/02/new-study-suggests-the-atlantic-overturning-circulation-amoc-is-on-tipping-course/


    I was wondering if anyone is planning to make any changes in gardening, e.g. not 'throwing all eggs in one basket' and trying things like zoning their gardens/allotments, or diversifying what they grow, so that all might not be lost.

    It is a tall order though, we now seem to get too much heat, cold, precipitation, dryness, etc at the wrong times in the growing cycle.

    This comment sums it up perfectly to me. We can try to adapt, as i am doing in my garden, but the biggest challenge is the extremes coming at the wrong times; Droughts in the early spring, prolonged rains in midsummer, heatwaves in the autumn, wetter, milder winters - (This was 2023 by the way!) - 

    And every year the challenge is different! 

    Theres no basket for the eggs to go in, they're just rolling about on the worktop slowly dropping off onto the floor!
  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    The variable weather been playing merry hell with the tomato crop and I am not sure it is worth trying to grow them outside anymore though the greenhouse temperatures have been stupidly high at times. I've been using old duvet covers to shade the greenhouse and although they have been on the inside of the glass, the shade has made a considerable difference to the survival of seedlings and the tomatoes.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I think they key is to stay adaptable. We don't know what's coming, but it is likely to be erratic and chaotic, so we can learn to not be too attached to our plans.  Some people last year planted all drought tolerant planting in regular soil and then found the plants couldn't cope with deluges. There will be a lot to learn.

    Tread lightly. Go lightly. Keep learning and sharing insights.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    McRazz said:
    A useful link for you all when coming up against articles such as WP...




    I didn't understand this. What are you recommending for? Thanks
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    I've had plants that supposedly thrive in cool, damp and shady conditions, along with plants which like full sun, die in the past couple of years.  All have survived for at least 10 years since the garden was remodelled.  What can I replace them with, other than plastic plants.  With my luck they would melt!
  • McRazz said:
    A useful link for you all when coming up against articles such as WP...



    I thought I understood, but now think I need a little clue to be sure, @McRazz 😊
    Sorry to witness the demise of the forum. 😥😥😥😡😡😡I am Spartacus 
  • KT53 said:
    I've had plants that supposedly thrive in cool, damp and shady conditions, along with plants which like full sun, die in the past couple of years.  All have survived for at least 10 years since the garden was remodelled.  What can I replace them with, other than plastic plants.  With my luck they would melt!
    We need an invention that senses the weather and adapts to it, but what?! Glad you are only joking about plastic.....
    Sorry to witness the demise of the forum. 😥😥😥😡😡😡I am Spartacus 
  • punkdoc said:
    Having read the Guardians report on this, I have now read the Saturday Times piece which paints a rather different picture, whilst still recognising that it is a potential problem. Its conclusion seems to be: it is unlikely, and if it does happen it will be in the far different future.
    It is interesting how you can get such different conclusions when both pieces are referencing the same report.


    This is worth reading, if you are interested:

    https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2024/02/new-study-suggests-the-atlantic-overturning-circulation-amoc-is-on-tipping-course/
    Sorry to witness the demise of the forum. 😥😥😥😡😡😡I am Spartacus 
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