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ROSES... Autumn/Winter '23/24..

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited September 2023
    Marlorena said:
    @PeterAberdeen
     I've grown it several times, once as a 20 ft wide rambler
    Can I ask, did you find Ghislaine slow to get going? I have one planted in my front garden and I am hoping 2024 will be a "leap" year. So far it has been Sleep, Creep, Bleep

  • I'm changing focus a bit with my roses. Several have been quite disappointing where it comes to blackspot, and other roses never seem to (easily) assume a decent shape. The lack of shape is very likely due to a lack of skills, and the blackspot is not helped by the roses' fend-for-yourself lot in life. The blackspot is the biggest issue, but when the two combine for a shrub that's oddly-shaped and blackspot-ridden the spirit wilts a bit. Anyway, this is a bit of context, as I'm interested in roses that are bullet-proof in these two departments.

    For a bit more context, in my small set of roses I rank them as follows. The list is a bit wonky, as it mixes climbers/ramblers with shrub roses.

    Excellent/good for blackspot
    'For your eyes only' - great shape, great health, total winner.
    'Madame Alfred Carriere' - great health; it grows in an apple tree, shape difficult to asses, but its lack of thorns and great scent make it well-valued.
    'Ghislaine de Feligonde' - great health, recent addition.
    'Simple gold' - Seems OK generally, still early days, not as shapely as FYEO.
    'Lady of Shallot' - Still early days.

    Medium/bad for blackspot:
    'Albertine' - Requires quite a bit of steering of tentacles, has periods of unsightliness, bad for blackspot in my garden.
    'Westerland' - Better than Albertine (blackspot), very vigorous and tentacly, gives more joy year-round than Albertine does.
    'Jazz' - About the same league as Westerland above.
    'Midnight summer's dream' - Defoliates, often unsightly.
    'Chandos beauty' - defoliates. Its gorgeous scent compensates to a good extent, but it needs to show some improvement also where it comes to shape.

    Perhaps this just illustrates I'm not good at growing roses. On the bright side, I'm very happy with FYEO, have a lot of faith in Madame Alfred Carriere and GdF, trust that Westerland and I will come to an understanding, and Albertine will stick around for a few sentimental reasons. Recommendations for shapely, blackspot-free, and gardener-resistant roses would be amazing.
  • Vh72Vh72 Posts: 127
    @purplerallim I think harkness still sell double delight, my 20 year old original DD was bought from there.  
  • DashaDasha Posts: 137
    Hi all, what are your thoughts on Gentle Hermione? Is she worth having nowadays?

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