If I were starting from scratch with a new garden (which I may well be in the next year or two) I would place a bulk order with TCL. Probably grow them on in pots to begin with to make sure they were the ones I ordered! Which to take with me would be a conundrum. Some of the discontinued DA’s certainly and a few of the Loubert rarities, but the majority are easy enough to replace.
No news about my German order yet. I’m very keen to see if I really do get my unicorn CPM!
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@Mr. Vine Eye nice rose hips there.. take good care of the future gardeners and hopefully one day you can relax when they manage your garden...
@Marlorena Eastcroft have always sent roses with good thick canes.. Pacific Blue did well for me for a 1st year rose.. it does take off vertically like the modern HTs from Delbard and Tantau..
welcome @kate.james58 bareroots are ok even in DA sized pots.. Bigger pots are needed only if you are not planning to plant them in the ground in summer.. as watering becomes tedious and they tend to be unhappy if left for long in small pots..
Thanks @cooldoc. I am going to B&M Bargains tomorrow as they have some big black tubs half price - if they are in stock in my local store. I will try to get 3. The climber, Open Arms, will have to stay in a pot as all around the shed is paved. Little Buckaroo should be fine in the pot it is in (or it will be in - it hasn't arrived yet - hoping Monday). The other two can either go into the ground or into the bigger pots next year. And if they go in the ground I can buy more roses for the two pots - win, win! The pots are similar I think to some that @Marlorena had on her balcony in a photo in a thread I think from 2019. It occurs to me that I can hide them by putting other containers (with plants in) around them.
Hello @kate.james58 and welcome. Disguising those big black tubs with surrounding plants a good idea because it helps to shade them from the sun too. Its easy for rose roots to cook otherwise! I find I need to water them more than the glazed ceramic ones but they are very useful. I like the ones with handles that the tree nurseries use - luckily I have a tree nursery nearby where I can pick them up very cheaply.
Late blooms, although fewer and fewer, are like a precious gift..
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@Nollie as someone who experiences loads of intense sun, do you find that pots and esp metal pots can harm plants if they heat up? I would be interested to hear more about "cooked rose roots". Thanks
@Fire, yes black plastic/rubber pots absorb and retain the heat and it gets too hot for fine feeder roots especially to survive. I use them only in cooler, shadier areas, sunk into the ground (e.g. to try out a rose in a particular location) or as liners for ceramic pots of a lighter, heat-reflecting colour. I also do the reverse with white plastic pots in a couple of decorative ceramic ones of a darker colour. Double potting provides an extra layer of insulation either which way.
ETA - the ideal is a light-coloured liner in light-coloured decorative pot. The liner also helps to retain moisture.
I could never use metal, apart from the fact they would get far too hot to handle, they‘d be an incredibly hostile environment for any plant. The same would apply in sunny positions in milder parts of the UK, I imagine.
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Thanks for the welcome @Nollie and hello back to you. Lovely roses. I fought my way through the crowds of Christmas shoppers and the rain, and managed to get 3 of the big 50cm planters from B & M. They still said £8.99 on the shelf (they were outside) but £4 at the till, so I'm a happy (wet) bunny. They do need holes drilled in the bottom but I think I'm up to that! Currently they are dumped in the garden. I think it will be ok to leave the new roses in the smaller pots for now? Apart from anything else (the weather!) it will take some time to accumulate enough compost to fill them, unless I can get someone to deliver. I struggle with heavy loads so I can really only get one bag at a time, although my milkman delivers mp compost so that's ok.
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I also think I may need bigger tubs, but hopefully they will be ok for the winter, and some may go in the ground next year.
No news about my German order yet. I’m very keen to see if I really do get my unicorn CPM!
@Marlorena Eastcroft have always sent roses with good thick canes.. Pacific Blue did well for me for a 1st year rose.. it does take off vertically like the modern HTs from Delbard and Tantau..
welcome @kate.james58 bareroots are ok even in DA sized pots.. Bigger pots are needed only if you are not planning to plant them in the ground in summer.. as watering becomes tedious and they tend to be unhappy if left for long in small pots..
The pots are similar I think to some that @Marlorena had on her balcony in a photo in a thread I think from 2019. It occurs to me that I can hide them by putting other containers (with plants in) around them.
Late blooms, although fewer and fewer, are like a precious gift..
Alister Stella Gray:
Avalanche Abricot:
ETA - the ideal is a light-coloured liner in light-coloured decorative pot. The liner also helps to retain moisture.
I could never use metal, apart from the fact they would get far too hot to handle, they‘d be an incredibly hostile environment for any plant. The same would apply in sunny positions in milder parts of the UK, I imagine.
I fought my way through the crowds of Christmas shoppers and the rain, and managed to get 3 of the big 50cm planters from B & M. They still said £8.99 on the shelf (they were outside) but £4 at the till, so I'm a happy (wet) bunny.
They do need holes drilled in the bottom but I think I'm up to that! Currently they are dumped in the garden.
I think it will be ok to leave the new roses in the smaller pots for now? Apart from anything else (the weather!) it will take some time to accumulate enough compost to fill them, unless I can get someone to deliver. I struggle with heavy loads so I can really only get one bag at a time, although my milkman delivers mp compost so that's ok.