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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    If you think 'AI' (it isn't AI as such) isn't capable of a discussion, go here:
    ..create an account and try talking to a machine. What amazed me was the speed of the responses.
    I've posted a response before. This is one I just received from a question based on Hannah Fry's recent TV prog:

    Is the universe mathmatical?

    The question of whether the universe is inherently mathematical is a topic of philosophical and scientific debate. Some physicists, mathematicians, and philosophers argue that mathematics seems to provide a remarkably effective language for describing and predicting the behavior of the physical world. They point to the fact that the laws of physics can often be expressed in terms of mathematical equations and that these equations have led to accurate predictions and technological advancements.

    Others view mathematics as a human creation, a product of human thought that we have developed to describe and understand the patterns and relationships we observe in the universe. In this view, mathematics is a powerful tool that humans have invented to make sense of the world around us.

    It's also worth noting that while mathematics has been extraordinarily successful in describing the behavior of the universe on many scales, there are also areas of physics, such as the behavior of subatomic particles or the nature of black holes, where our current mathematical frameworks break down or are incomplete.

    In summary, whether the universe is inherently mathematical or whether mathematics is a tool humans use to describe it is still a subject of ongoing discussion and exploration in both the realms of philosophy and science.


    That answer came back in micro seconds.

    If someone is trying a bot here, I'm not sure you'd notice.



    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,904
    @Dovefromabove same here. I went to school with the boy who became the AI man! 🤣
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I thought I'd ask it a question on gardening. This is a question I had posed here a while back:
    My callistemon was damaged last year by wind. I think it has sent up new shoots from the base. Is that likely?

    Yes, it's quite likely for a Callistemon (also known as a bottlebrush plant) to send up new shoots from the base after being damaged by wind or other factors. Callistemons are resilient plants that can regenerate and recover from damage. When the main stems or branches are damaged, the plant often responds by producing new growth from the base, known as suckering or basal shoots. These shoots are the plant's way of rejuvenating itself and can eventually grow into new healthy branches.

    To encourage the growth of these new shoots and help your Callistemon recover fully, you can:

    1. Prune Damaged Parts: Trim away the damaged or dead portions of the plant to promote healthy new growth.

    2. Provide Adequate Watering: Ensure the plant receives consistent and appropriate watering to support its recovery. Keep the soil moist but not waterlogged.

    3. Fertilize: Apply a balanced fertilizer to provide essential nutrients that will encourage new growth.

    4. Mulching: Apply a layer of mulch around the base of the plant to help retain moisture and regulate soil temperature.

    5. Monitor Growth: Keep an eye on the new shoots as they develop. If there are too many, you might need to selectively thin them out to ensure the best growth for the healthiest shoots.

    6. Stake or Support: If your Callistemon is prone to wind damage, consider staking or providing some support to the plant to prevent future damage.

    Remember that it might take some time for the new shoots to grow and develop into mature branches, so be patient with the recovery process.


    Again, the anser came back in nano seconds. The problem is that Chat bots aren't known for their accuracy...



    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • PoppypussPoppypuss Posts: 143
    @steveTu I get that Chatbots set up by various retailers etc can be useful to manage their customer responses. The problem here is that I don't want to interact with a robot and this 'chatbot' is masquerading as human , very badly too. @B3 yep whoever has put this on the forum must think we are lab rats, bizarre really I'm sure there's other forums they can hide in.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I've a strong suspicion I interacted with an NHS bot. It's on the text message you get periodically asking you  a few general questions and then you have to test your blood pressure and text it back. There was an any other questions/ information bit at the end. The conversation was a bit weird so I asked if I was texting a hunan. No response.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • rowlandscastle444rowlandscastle444 Posts: 2,612
    edited August 2023
    I don't suppose that AI bots, or chatbots, follow the three laws of robotics, as set out by Isaac Asimov.

    "Who's Isaac Asimov", I hear some of you say? 
    Well, dead for one thing, but also (and I'm probably making an AI bot's classic error here) the greatest science fiction writer that ever lived. 
    But the three laws state that,



    So, does an AI bot, or chatbot (not to be confused with a chatterbox), always provide an answer that will not harm a human, whether physically or emotionally? I suspect not, since so many of us get riled with the darn things. Feel your blood pressure rising?
    That's harm - or injury!

    The average AI will do precisely that - although, there's a number of humans who do precisely the same!! 
    Basically, we may never be able to tell a good AI from a human being - at least not by an answer on this forum. 


  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    I guess it's only a matter of time before the bots get programmed to add their own (invented) personal experience to an answer, such as the one on callistemons posed by @steveTu.  I'd be suspicious of the answer he received because it is totally impersonal.  If it had said "I've had the same problem in my garden in the east midlands, and found that cutting out the dead wood, mulching and watering led to new shoots from the base", I'd be more likely to believe this was a human.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    That is the issue with them at the moment. They just consume information (data), correlate it and  and put it back out - they do not 'know' (or care) if what they're saying is right or wrong (or inflammatory). I find it hard, having been having conversations with ChatGPT for over six months, to understand how quickly and 'humanly' they do answer.

    This is whane I just challenged its advice:
    How can I know that your advice is good and will work? Could it make things worse?

    It's important to note that while I strive to provide accurate and helpful information, gardening and plant care can be complex and can vary based on specific circumstances. While the advice I've given is generally considered good practice for helping a damaged Callistemon recover, there are a few things to keep in mind:

    1. Plant Variability: Each plant can react differently to various treatments. While the advice I provided is based on general plant care principles, there might be specific variations in how your Callistemon responds.

    2. Environmental Factors: Local climate, soil conditions, and other environmental factors can play a significant role in how a plant recovers. Adjustments might be needed based on your specific location.

    3. Degree of Damage: The extent of the damage your Callistemon sustained will impact its ability to recover. In some cases, severe damage may not be reversible, despite your best efforts.

    4. Observation and Adaptation: Regularly monitor the progress of the new shoots and the overall health of the plant. If you notice that your actions are not producing positive results or if the plant's condition worsens, you might need to adapt your approach.

    5. Consulting Experts: If you're unsure about a particular plant care approach or if your plant's situation is more complex, consider consulting local gardening experts, horticulturists, or arborists for personalized advice.

    To mitigate the risk of making things worse, here are a few steps you can take:

    • Research: Cross-reference the advice you receive, including mine, with reputable gardening resources and sources specific to your region or plant type.

    • Start Conservatively: Begin with less invasive interventions, such as proper watering and pruning, before resorting to more drastic measures.

    • One Step at a Time: Implement changes gradually and observe the plant's response before making additional adjustments.

    • Seek Professional Help: If you're uncertain or the situation seems dire, don't hesitate to reach out to professionals who have expertise in plant care.

    Remember that gardening involves a degree of trial and error, and not all outcomes can be predicted with absolute certainty. Your dedication and willingness to learn from the plant's responses will play a crucial role in its recovery.

    ... I'm working with version 3.5 apparently and there is version 4 available. Not sure what that release offers over the version I've quoted above. But you have to also factor in how young this technology is. Computing is really less than 70 years old.
    Tooooo scary for words.

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  • Is using this forum free or do people have to be subscribers?

    I read recently that AI (whatever this was as there is no 1 supercomputer) will run out of text next year. It has then read everything that is available. It would be the first time that “someone” has read everything but it proves that’s not the amount that we read that is important. 

    I my garden.

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