@salo.daria what a lovely wild setting you have there.
I agree with a groundcover/short rambler roses being ideal for that situation and some are also shade tolerant. If you plant it/them in middle of the width of your raised bed/patio the rose will grow and scramble towards the stone wall where the light is coming from, so you should see them from above too.
Have a look at this website for ideas because they recommend (mainly ground cover roses from the shrub /floribunda rose classes) for specific situations such as yours..
Then you could always cross-check whether any of those also appear in the shade tolerant category.
There are plenty of other breeders of course, but Kordes do have a reputation for tough, healthy roses. I wouldn’t go for fussy, multi-petalled roses or roses prone to blackspot or mildew.
Also check for winter hardiness in your location, some ramblers I can think of do not survive mine in the mountains of Northern Spain.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Busy-Lizzie and @JessicaS - thanks for the info on Open Arms. I'm strongly going to consider it as I don't have many singles (just two).
First bloom on my new 'Eyes for You'......
I bought this because arguably the most beautiful stand alone flower I have seen since getting into gardening (sorry to disappoint it isn't a rose) is a Gansu Mudan (Rockii) tree peony. I think this rose looks quite similar to this peony I saw (Fen He I think it was called):
(*blooms of 20cm across and scented)
Although the first bloom isn't as similar as the EFY pictures online are; my petals are quite pink in that first bloom. Does anyone have EFY? How do you find it?
@salo.daria love your enthusiasm! And your moss covered wall. All the moss suggests it is or at least was a shady, humid area. Personally, I am a great believer in putting the right plant in the right spot. My suggestion is, observe how sunny this area is after your great clear out. If the moss deteriorates, a rose might be happy there. A length of 4ft does not need a climber to be covered. A lot of David Austins, just to mention a breader, will get that wide without any support required.
Thank you guys for all your invaluable help! I decided to listen to @ElbFee 's advice and wait. I do have spots more suitable for roses further down in the garden but they are not 'civilised' yet. So I guess I better get on with it...
Penelope Lively, Cornelia, and Alnwick (last two). The prettiest roses right now. I moved Alnwick here to the garden bench area because its fragrance wafts... I can smell this from 2-3m away.
Forever Royal... LEAPT up and is now pushing 70cm tall.
Silver Shadow... a bit rain-damaged but great fragrance
And a totally preposterous dahlia (Cafe au Lait Twist) (look... it's about 60% correct, @CatDouch 😁)
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I agree with a groundcover/short rambler roses being ideal for that situation and some are also shade tolerant. If you plant it/them in middle of the width of your raised bed/patio the rose will grow and scramble towards the stone wall where the light is coming from, so you should see them from above too.
Have a look at this website for ideas because they recommend (mainly ground cover roses from the shrub /floribunda rose classes) for specific situations such as yours..
https://www.rosen.de/en/garden-roses/specific-situation/stone-wall
https://www.rosen.de/en/garden-roses/specific-situation/slope
Then you could always cross-check whether any of those also appear in the shade tolerant category.
There are plenty of other breeders of course, but Kordes do have a reputation for tough, healthy roses. I wouldn’t go for fussy, multi-petalled roses or roses prone to blackspot or mildew.
Also check for winter hardiness in your location, some ramblers I can think of do not survive mine in the mountains of Northern Spain.
First bloom on my new 'Eyes for You'......
I bought this because arguably the most beautiful stand alone flower I have seen since getting into gardening (sorry to disappoint it isn't a rose) is a Gansu Mudan (Rockii) tree peony. I think this rose looks quite similar to this peony I saw (Fen He I think it was called):
(*blooms of 20cm across and scented)
Although the first bloom isn't as similar as the EFY pictures online are; my petals are quite pink in that first bloom. Does anyone have EFY? How do you find it?
Love this rose so much 😍
Binned it (twice), gave it a last minute reprieve in March, moved it, fed it, and finally had some nice blooms off it this year.
Many people here have the rose incl @JessicaS whose persicas are pretty stunning all round.
I think Ebb Tide has been put in the garden bin three times now but today it is finally blooming quite nicely.
So... threats sometimes work!
Penelope Lively, Cornelia, and Alnwick (last two). The prettiest roses right now.
I moved Alnwick here to the garden bench area because its fragrance wafts... I can smell this from 2-3m away.
Forever Royal... LEAPT up and is now pushing 70cm tall.
Silver Shadow... a bit rain-damaged but great fragrance
And a totally preposterous dahlia (Cafe au Lait Twist) (look... it's about 60% correct, @CatDouch 😁)