@SYinUSA If I were you I would get rid and get myself a new one, plant it deeper and better in fresh soil to avoid rose replant disease. I’m done babying along poorly roses though, but if you want to persevere, yes reduce the top growth to reduce stress, give it a good deep water and mulch heavily, staking it if necessary.
@Busy-Lizzie TCL deliver all over Europe, €20 for up to 100 roses to France. They used to be excellent quality, reliable and great value but I suspect, like many big nurseries, inventory management went to pot and they are struggling to get experienced staff post-covid. They can still send really decent roses and they are the right ones most of the time, but it is becoming more of a gamble.
WAMS, TW sending to the EU would be great, but I do have access to smaller, specialist nurseries like Loubert, Lens, Guillot etc. so I’ll stick to modest orders from those in future.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Hi guys, really loving this thread @Marlorena! You have inspired me to try and plant some roses of my own. I am a total newbie please keep in mind...
I had a plan to grow a rambler up an established silver birch. So I bought a Paul’s Himalayan Musk rose on an impulse. But now I am having second thoughts because I suddenly realised how massive that rose can get...
I am now wondering maybe there is something else I can do with it? I have an empty sloping garden that is about 15 X 20 meters. Can I maybe use it to grow down or up a slope instead? Like ground cover?
Or is it possible to just hack the rose back to the ground if it gets too large and start again? In all the pictures of Paul’s Himalayan Musk it's just so big it looks like the tree is going to break.
I could also put a trellis along one of short retaining walls to give it more vertical space that way. But I suspect it will want more space yet...
Hi @salo.daria, you are right, Paul can get really big. It probably won't break the birch's stem but the branches will not be able to support the rose. Like any rose you can cut it back. But why grow a rambler when you try to keep it small? I have never tried to train Paul as a ground cover rose. However, if there is nothing for it to climb in, what else could it do? Just keep in mind that you plant it at the shadier end of the slope because it will grow towards the light. MHO, I would try to swap the rose with someone who has the right tree and get a rose that works for you. 15x20m of garden and only one rose seems like a waste to me.
My not-Starlight Symphonie is not Claude Monet after all. It started pinkish but now it is vanilla and red. Any ideas? Looks ok with the day lilies but not at all with its neighbour, Times Past.
Ground cover white says the label. Nollie, what about buying roses in light yellow as they will be white in your climate anyway?
A very reliable, unfussy rose, The Fairy.
Bought because of Marlorena's promoting and still not clear where to put it to let it grow higher.
Great colour and well recovered from the ant attack in its pot.
Against all rules I did not prune this one at all. It is in a very shady spot so I thought I give it a head start. Start to grow buds instead of stems so to speak. It worked. It is going non stop. A hulthemia from hugs&kisses series but I forgot the name.
I do hope all of you in the heat are coping ok, it is most worrying. Whereas this summer is the best for the roses since I started growing them, just enough rain and pleasant temperatures. A strange absence of pests so far too though fungal issues are present. I haven't posted recently but always read and admire the roses on the thread.
Many roses are a bit sparse between flushes currently but these are the best pot ones. I feel bad posting so many, I used to make them collages but lost this capability with my new-to-me iphone.
Claude MonetMunstead WoodThe Feminine TouchOlivia Rose AustinDunav RekaAbsolutely FabulousOdysseyEufemia, Gruss an Aachen, The Anniversary Rose and Berry Bush Aurora
@ElbFee, your second photo looks magical, love the intense blue/purple/white combo. Do you just scatter cornflower seeds among your roses?
Lovely potted roses as always @Tack! Yes, thankfully no sawfly so far for me, and the ladybirds have taken care of the aphids that appeared in May/June.
@Nollie, thanks again for that video link about bullnosing — I think my Olivia Rose Austin is doing that, given the current weather where I am.
The flowers are flattened without the typical cup shape, and are unusually frilly.
All your roses are beautiful, Tack... esp that Odyssey of yours!
Sorry to keep posting this rose, but I can't understand DA's discontinuation of "The Alnwick Rose." Scent, health, looks, quick repeat...
Bathsheba has gone quite monotone, just a dull yellow. This perhaps sounds a bit spoilt, but I vastly preferred it last month (top). Is there another rose that looks more like the upper version of Bathsheba all the time?
Your colours are gorgeous, Elbfee... cornflowers FTW! Interesting to see what you do with your Mutabilis. I have it on order for next bareroot season but keep changing my mind about where to put it. Just hope it survives the brutal winds and hebe-murdering frost pockets my garden will throw at it.
Hi all, surviving the heat by staying indoors in shuttered darkness here, but couldn’t safely emerge until after 9pm yesterday because of searingly hot wind, which was much worse than the 41.8c temperature. Not a single rose bloom survived, all deep-fried and shrivelled, even tough shrubs and perennials keeled over. We are getting off lightly compared to Greece and Italy and it is ever so slightly less fierce today..
ETA - Roald Dahl and Darlow’s Enigma got off relatively unscathed protected by the North-facing fence.
@ElbFee Alister Stella Grey performs the pale yellow really white rose admirably, even if it is Alister Stella Brown right now 😆
@Athelas weather certainly, perhaps a bullnose light.. a full throttle one barely opens at all and shrinks to a shrunken 1/2 - 1” wide here. My Harlow Carr does that flat pointy thing every summer, but is still pretty, as is your Olivia.
Re your Bathsheba @WAMS I would be thrilled with either of those colours rather than the washed out tones I get in summer. Lady of Shalott is the best for retaining a modicum of orange/apricot tones in summer for me so I would be interested in any responses too.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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@Busy-Lizzie TCL deliver all over Europe, €20 for up to 100 roses to France. They used to be excellent quality, reliable and great value but I suspect, like many big nurseries, inventory management went to pot and they are struggling to get experienced staff post-covid. They can still send really decent roses and they are the right ones most of the time, but it is becoming more of a gamble.
WAMS, TW sending to the EU would be great, but I do have access to smaller, specialist nurseries like Loubert, Lens, Guillot etc. so I’ll stick to modest orders from those in future.
MHO, I would try to swap the rose with someone who has the right tree and get a rose that works for you. 15x20m of garden and only one rose seems like a waste to me.
My not-Starlight Symphonie is not Claude Monet after all. It started pinkish but now it is vanilla and red. Any ideas? Looks ok with the day lilies but not at all with its neighbour, Times Past.
Ground cover white says the label. Nollie, what about buying roses in light yellow as they will be white in your climate anyway?
A very reliable, unfussy rose, The Fairy.
Bought because of Marlorena's promoting and still not clear where to put it to let it grow higher.
Great colour and well recovered from the ant attack in its pot.
Against all rules I did not prune this one at all. It is in a very shady spot so I thought I give it a head start. Start to grow buds instead of stems so to speak. It worked. It is going non stop. A hulthemia from hugs&kisses series but I forgot the name.
@Nollie, thanks again for that video link about bullnosing — I think my Olivia Rose Austin is doing that, given the current weather where I am.
All your roses are beautiful, Tack... esp that Odyssey of yours!
Sorry to keep posting this rose, but I can't understand DA's discontinuation of "The Alnwick Rose." Scent, health, looks, quick repeat...
Bathsheba has gone quite monotone, just a dull yellow. This perhaps sounds a bit spoilt, but I vastly preferred it last month (top). Is there another rose that looks more like the upper version of Bathsheba all the time?
Your colours are gorgeous, Elbfee... cornflowers FTW! Interesting to see what you do with your Mutabilis. I have it on order for next bareroot season but keep changing my mind about where to put it. Just hope it survives the brutal winds and hebe-murdering frost pockets my garden will throw at it.
ETA - Roald Dahl and Darlow’s Enigma got off relatively unscathed protected by the North-facing fence.
@ElbFee Alister Stella Grey performs the pale yellow really white rose admirably, even if it is Alister Stella Brown right now 😆
@Athelas weather certainly, perhaps a bullnose light.. a full throttle one barely opens at all and shrinks to a shrunken 1/2 - 1” wide here. My Harlow Carr does that flat pointy thing every summer, but is still pretty, as is your Olivia.
Re your Bathsheba @WAMS I would be thrilled with either of those colours rather than the washed out tones I get in summer. Lady of Shalott is the best for retaining a modicum of orange/apricot tones in summer for me so I would be interested in any responses too.