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ROSES: Autumn/Winter 2022-23

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @PeterAberdeen
    No, not me.  I would be surprised if they ditched what surely is one of their biggest money spinners, there would be an uproar..  but who knows with them, they operate in such mysterious ways.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @PeterAberdeen, a clg. Iceberg specimen from a different supplier (I got mine from Beales) might very well do what it says on the tin, impossible to say really. Ideally you would want someone with an established older specimen, like @bcpathome, to send you a cutting of theirs 😉 

    Whatever climbers you end up with, without the addition of a trellis on top to give you more height, flexible canes are pretty important to train them low along your low wall. MAC has those, but it is a huge beast that you would probably have to give over your entire wall to. Think I would be looking at more mannerly climbers, say 3-4m height, that would occupy a width roughly the same or a bit less.

    I agree with Lizzie about the fragrance of Gertie, it’s consistently in my top five for fragrance.


    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    My neighbours clg Iceberg which is a magnificent specimen and blooms continuously, came from a discount store.. probably Aldi.. and I doubt he paid more than a few pounds for it..

    I took delivery yesterday of a 'Marie Pavie' rose from Trevor White.. they are known for their huge roots but this one topped the lot..  Trevor must have the best soil down there in Norwich.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    Marlorena said:
    @PeterAberdeen
    No, not me.  I would be surprised if they ditched what surely is one of their biggest money spinners, there would be an uproar..  but who knows with them, they operate in such mysterious ways.. 
    David Austin are not mysterious, just running a business for profit.  Any replacement for Gertrude Jekyll would come from something claimed to be better.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ^Stating the obvious, but thanks..
    East Anglia, England
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    Not a climber but another rose with an incredible, strong fragrance  @PeterAberdeen is Pretty Jessica if you need any smaller roses for the bed. It smells as good as GJ ( very similar) but blooms more.
    https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/shop/david-austin-english-roses/pretty-jessica/ 

    Do professional growers with huge lines of roses to cut back sterilise their pruners between every single bush? What do people here use? 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I've never sterilised pruners.. who can be bothered?.. but I know some do..
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I’d like to see DA produce something that is as healthy, vigorous and super-fragrant as GJ yet still claim an improvement. It’s also one of the few large shrubs DA have that does not need support and holds it’s beautiful quartered blooms upright. Less viscous thorns or a slightly better repeat flushes, perhaps, but I don’t mind the thorns and it’s worth it for the first flush alone imo. Think it was WAMS that heard that rumour..

    Perhaps we ought to be buying our clg. Icebergs from Germany, Marlorena, if that’s where Aldi gets it’s stock from. Bit of a lottery it seems.

    I occasionally wipe my secateurs down with alcohol before putting them away if they’re particularly sticky, but rarely between pruning different roses.

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    @PeterAberdeen, I can't remember now who suggested that GJ might be retired next year but would advise that if you intend to get it, get it now whilst it's still available. You could keep it potted up if necessary until you are ready to plant it.

    My thinking is that if DA were draft enough to retire it,  there would be such a rush of orders you might not be able to get hold of one for love or money!
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Hope I've not now caused a stampede accidentally!
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
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