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ROSES: Autumn/Winter 2022-23

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  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @PeterAberdeen, how old are those roses? Why are you moving them?
    South West London
  • JessicaSJessicaS Posts: 870
    Happy New Year all!
    I will do a bit of pruning at the weekend... its not been that cold here so not sure how dormant some of mine are!

    I finally pulled out Waltz time over this weekend, fed up of its hideous balling in rain. 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Lizzie27 I’m wondering if your roses would benefit from a harder prune, especially Margaret. They don’t seem to be producing much in the way of new basal growth to replace the old canes, would that be right?

    Hello and welcome @PeterAberdeen. The only thing I would add to Marlorena’s sound advice would be to dig and prepare the new planting holes for your roses before lifting them. That way you can settle them in right away and they will barely register the move.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    They look good @Marlorena.

    Thanks @Nollie, I wondered about pruning those three even harder but in view of their age, didn't want to shock them too much. You're right, they don't produce many new basals at all but I think the hedge roots are probably inhibiting growth. GJ & WC are still producing lots of blooms however and I don't want to lose them because of sentimental value to me. Might leave them this year and rethink next if need be. Good to have your input though, thanks.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I hope they revive Marlorena, that’s a long time in transit! 20€ postage is what Loubert charge me, so great they haven’t added any extra for dealing with the UK import certs.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • PeterAberdeenPeterAberdeen Posts: 229
    edited January 2023
    Thank you so much for the advice @Marlorena

    The move for the rose is to take them out of a border that is semi shaded and into full sun that is sheltered, @newbie77, they are also far too close to a rhododendron, as it has continued to grow and the roses have been neglected.  We guess they are about 20 years old. (I have recently taken over my mother's garden.  As she is 90 it is too much at 0.5 of an acre and she has given me carte blanche.)
     

    Excellent and not any real hardship in the ground prep as I have already prepared the new bed.  I have some new well rotted horse manure and some DA Mycorrhizal Fungi that I planned to use as well.

    I love the idea of the purple and blue to counter-plant with them (I'll keep the orange and yellow for my canna/dahlia combinations).  I really appreciate your wisdom on the pruning advice pertinent to our conditions up in Aberdeenshire, that is advice you cannot get from a book or website, but only from people who 'get their hands into the soil'.

    Oh, I nearly forgot - last but not least - @Nollie.  I will bear that in mind to keep the time out of the soil to a minimum.

    Any advice on purple/blue counter-plants warmly appreciated.  I do have a preference for putting them behind the roses and therefore they can be up to 6' tall if necessary. I was thinking on maybe Phlox Paniculata Blue, Delphinium Dark Knight, and/or Geranium Rozanne.
    “nature abhors a vacuum” | Aristotle
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    edited January 2023
    @PeterAberdeen, I had asked how old because if they are so old it might be too much effort to relocate those and you could just get something new. Anyway ground would be wet and you have got good advice on how to move so it would be ok. 
    South West London
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