555, no worries @Nollie, it's nice to see such sumptuous blooms. It's back on my list but I'm in no rush to add more right now, I have 5 on order and I'll then consider my options further.
@Nollie I love your Rose de Rescht, I have 2 of thembut right now they are a little bit rusty.
Since we are talking about Polyanta roses, anybody could tell me why one of my Jacques Cartier has put out 3 very long canes? I thought all the polyantas were little/medium an compact shrubs, in fact I got a couple of RR, JC and Comte de Chambord to make a small edge in front of the porch, but those canes are about 1,5 m tall!!
If planting bare-root bush roses between October and March, these roses will need an additional pruning (even though they look pruned). The method on these is to prune to around 8cm from the ground - this looks savage but it will encourage the roots to grow and produce a stronger plant in the long term. If you are worried about pruning, don't be! Pruning can be undertaken with secateurs or a hedge trimmer.
Hi @dabolem, probably because all three of those roses are of the Damask/portland damask/hybrid perpetual class and not polyanthas. JC can get big and although the other two are compact for their class, not that compact!
Could what you are seeing on RdeR could be something called ‘damask crud’ which can look a bit like a cross between rust and blackspot? Mine had only a little crud on lower leaves in it’s first year - I picked them off and clean foliage grew again. This year I have had more because I wasn’t as vigilant.
@WhereAreMySecateurs, you must’ve missed that discussion recently upthread over Peter Beales’ similar advice but nobody seems to do it nor notice any difference in vigour for the lack. DA are silent on the matter. I did say I may prune back further after planting if it were a tall, spindly plant but only in Spring, since I tend to get cane tip dieback over winter anyway. This was PB’s advice:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Thanks @Nollie, I just checked and you are right, they are all portland roses! Gosh, then I think they are not suited for the small edge I had in mind when I planted them.
I guess I will need to move them too, as if I hadn’t many others to move already, lol.
So, first question: can I move roses in spring?
Second question: I need something to replace those portland roses and, as I said, they need to be suitable to grow as a small edge (max height 1m); I need them to be very compact and they should keep thick foliage also on the lower side, near the ground.
Can somebody help me to choose the right roses for that. At this point I don’t care what colour they are.
8cm (roughly 3”) does sound brutal, although it makes more sense for bush roses since they love a hard prune. The ‘usual’ annual advice - if such a thing exists - is HT to 4-6” and flories 10-12”. I wouldn’t be brave enough to prune a shrub rose to 3” but you can experiment for us WAMS!
I think you would get away with Rose de Rescht as an edging rose @dabolem, but what about Marie Pavie? That is a polyantha! Small flowers but plenty of them all summer, lovely healthy foliage and a wafty fragrance. I have always thought a hedge of it would be fantastic. Doesn’t mind the heat, drought resistant.
My two MP are in pots and I keep them to around 50cm. It’s easily pruned into a neat rounded shape. Experiencing a little leaf senescence now but still looking great for November:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Yes 8cm (roughly 3”) does sound brutal. What if there is further dieback on cane tips over winter? I would be concerned that there would be no growing buds left in existing canes.
Outside Elizabeth, Lady of Shallott and Thomas a Becket are flowering. I see lots of yellow flowers on Bring me Sunshine but I think those are flowers of The Poet's Wife which must be flopping all over Bring me Sunshine.
Still not feeling well enough to be in garden, feeling a bit better though and would start with some cleaning in the house. This is an awful flu, still feeling my ears blocked, a bit dizzy and nausea.
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It's back on my list but I'm in no rush to add more right now, I have 5 on order and I'll then consider my options further.
Since we are talking about Polyanta roses, anybody could tell me why one of my Jacques Cartier has put out 3 very long canes? I thought all the polyantas were little/medium an compact shrubs, in fact I got a couple of RR, JC and Comte de Chambord to make a small edge in front of the porch, but those canes are about 1,5 m tall!!
https://www.roses.co.uk/pruning-tips
If planting bare-root bush roses between October and March, these roses will need an additional pruning (even though they look pruned). The method on these is to prune to around 8cm from the ground - this looks savage but it will encourage the roots to grow and produce a stronger plant in the long term. If you are worried about pruning, don't be! Pruning can be undertaken with secateurs or a hedge trimmer.
Could what you are seeing on RdeR could be something called ‘damask crud’ which can look a bit like a cross between rust and blackspot? Mine had only a little crud on lower leaves in it’s first year - I picked them off and clean foliage grew again. This year I have had more because I wasn’t as vigilant.
@WhereAreMySecateurs, you must’ve missed that discussion recently upthread over Peter Beales’ similar advice but nobody seems to do it nor notice any difference in vigour for the lack. DA are silent on the matter. I did say I may prune back further after planting if it were a tall, spindly plant but only in Spring, since I tend to get cane tip dieback over winter anyway. This was PB’s advice:
I guess I will need to move them too, as if I hadn’t many others to move already, lol.
So, first question: can I move roses in spring?
Can somebody help me to choose the right roses for that. At this point I don’t care what colour they are.
My two MP are in pots and I keep them to around 50cm. It’s easily pruned into a neat rounded shape. Experiencing a little leaf senescence now but still looking great for November:
Marie Pavie (see above) is pretty impressive but my top award goes to Astronomia:
Outside Elizabeth, Lady of Shallott and Thomas a Becket are flowering. I see lots of yellow flowers on Bring me Sunshine but I think those are flowers of The Poet's Wife which must be flopping all over Bring me Sunshine.
Still not feeling well enough to be in garden, feeling a bit better though and would start with some cleaning in the house. This is an awful flu, still feeling my ears blocked, a bit dizzy and nausea.